Tour de Zandvoort for Max Verstappen - 2024 Dutch GP Preview

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: We are on a mission for a few stupid questions here on the Inside Line F1 Podcast.

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We were firstly wondering who would play Yuvraj Singh in his biopic which I am not sure

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_02]: this is the right platform to answer but I do have a question for you nonetheless Kunal.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_02]: If and when you go to the Dutch GP where would you like to park your bike?

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Would it be in Potomac, in Spa, in Baku or where else?

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I see we are playing to the title of the podcast Tour de Zandvoort to watch Max Verstappen

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: because 40,000 bicycles literally that are going to find parking there.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's beautiful since you asked the question.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I will park at Nico Halkenberg's hometown which is less than or is about 90 miles or less than

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: 150 kilometers away from this race circuit. I will try and see if he still considers me as

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: a bit of a friend and he will say just park in my garage.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's why you will park your Tesla won't you? You will take your Tesla and then take

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: your bicycle to the circuit. Where Sundaram they have bike parking lots that go by the

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: name of Red Bull Ring, that go off Silvestan, they go by the name of Monza, Suzuka, Miami,

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Monaco. Where would you like to park your bike? I would like to do it by the beach but

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's going to be super, super packed this weekend and there's going to be lots

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_00]: of people attending the Dutch Grand Prix. I'm not going to find any place amongst all of those

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_00]: people to park my bike anywhere so I'm going to stay at home and enjoy this.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not staying at home. We are not staying at home.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not at home. You're not at home.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to give it away or?

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to a race track? Yeah, of course. You guys better give it away. It's

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: we really do pride ourselves on being able to be at the racetracks whenever there is

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: motorsport going on and Sundaram and myself will be there for the Indian Racing League this weekend

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and for the entire season as well at the Madras International Circuit

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and this particular Saturday and Sunday. So if you're around Chennai,

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: join us, come to the circuit. It'll be great to see you come over and say hello

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: or if you can't come to the circuit physically I suppose we will be on your TV screens at

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: home or even your phone. Star Sports and Fan Code are where you will see the broadcast of

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: the Indian Racing League and Indian F4 Championship and the two of us are going to be on there. So

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a little bit of a fun thing to have but that's in India. In the Netherlands,

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Kunal, the racing is even crazier because if I remember correctly you work for Viapoli

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: who's also the official broadcaster in the Netherlands. Are you getting to go there

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_02]: to see all the madness this weekend or are you working from the studio this time?

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I could if. I'll be on the studio and everyone watching the feed in Norway will get to see me

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: on camera. I'm going to be the TV expert so I will get to break down the race and the strategy

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: in real time and strategy is going to be keyed this weekend. Short pit lane, 60 km per hour,

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: pit lane speed limit, three of the hardest compounds. We don't know what the weather

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: is going to do like it always happens but it's exciting. All three of us on camera

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: at a motorsport event, could it be better than that? I think there's only one thing that tops it.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's doing a live event with all of our people, with all of us together in Mumbai which is again

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you have to go back to the home crowd right? If a man United player says they'll play anywhere

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: apart from World Cup, they're not a man United players. We're going to be missing home this

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: weekend and it's some weekend to leave home for Sundaram because heading into this one,

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: we're in such a crazy scenario where we have four different race winners in the last four

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Grand Prix. We enter the second half of the season with 13 different race winners on the grid

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and guess what? Red Bull have not lost four races in a row since Sakir 2020 that's 82 races ago.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the state of Formula One today and I'm very happy that we are finally at that stage and

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: it really is a rarity that we see four different teams and as many as seven different divers

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that can contend for a win. I'm generally very happy where Formula One is at this point but

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I would not want to be at home for this race actually. I don't want to be all alone

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: watching this on my screens. I would prefer to watch this with 100 people, everyone cheering on

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Landon or his overtake or a Stappen overtake. This is one of those weekends and it's probably going

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: to be one of those seasons where the second half is going to be that much more exciting.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We have so many drivers in contention. I don't know who's going to be

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: in contention this weekend but I genuinely feel Red Bull can stamp their authority

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and have things go back their way this weekend because it's Max Stappen's home race,

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the Dutch Grand Prix after all and it's the start of the second half of the season.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So this is the ideal place to tell everyone and remind everyone that hey, you might have

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: forgotten us but you're still back here and we're still going to extend our championship

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: lead so I'm putting a prediction right there straight away. I think Max Stappen is going

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to be winning this weekend. Wow! Before we even get to the predictions,

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Sundaram has laid it out there, laid it bare out there. I sort of agree with one thing which is

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: that the races in the summer break, before the summer break, sorry, the races before the

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: summer break came very fast. We had a triple header, one weekend break and then a double

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: header and momentum. We've always spoken of momentum and if you carry that momentum

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: or you don't carry a momentum, it's sort of you may not find your way through when races come to

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: you so thick and fast. This has been a forced break on all of us although we were recording.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: My feeling is that all teams would have gotten a chance to review their packages and the data

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: even more so run simulations as they would. Could Red Bull have found what is lacking

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: or has been lacking for them and could this time off, could this break have just sort of paused their

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: downfall is that the word? Or slowing down? Red Bull have been in the news for their breaks recently.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I was waiting for you to play that pun but yes they have been in the news for a break. The FIA

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: has seemingly plugged a loophole on using asymmetrical braking on Formula One cars which

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think is very interesting. It just so happens that Peter Wincer who's been on our show several

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: times and Craig Scarborough, two leading figures in the world of technical regulations and technical

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Formula One or F1 tech have explained it very well on what they think it is. And of course

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: everything is linking back to yes so Red Bull is the one team that has surprisingly lost a lot

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: of pace. So were they illegal? Were they running a car which was exploiting a loophole etc.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Firstly if you exploit a loophole it's not illegal. Secondly the FIA actively works on

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: plugging loopholes. It is a technical sport there are regulations. The FIA has fewer people

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: policing these regulations versus the teams actually having some of the masterminds who

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: are supposed to find their way through the regulations whether it's a loophole or not.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right that's where I stand. What is asymmetrical braking that happens? So

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: when we drive a road car and you press the brakes the braking pressure on all four wheels

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: is the same. It could be that the front wheels are braking more together than the rear wheels or

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: the other way around when it comes to brake bias setting. So when you see a qualifying lap

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and you see your driver taking the hand of the steering wheel and adjusting something

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: or turning up a knob depending on what car it is, what steering wheel offers brake bias settings and

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: where. What typically they do is they adjust brake bias setting so if you're entering into a slower

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: corner maybe you need to slow down a little more so you take a little bit more front brake bias for

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: example if you're going into a high speed corner maybe you take a little bit of rear

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: brake bias and you know depending on what drivers want and they have these presets for corners

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: especially on qualifying laps. Now for Red Bull what people are saying is that this asymmetrical

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: braking bias what it also does is it allows you to change brake bias on different wheels on the

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: left side and the right side of the wheel that's what it does and Craig Scarborough has drawn a

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: very simple very lovely engineering drawing of what this is go and check his Twitter

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and what it means in reality of course if I can just simplify it is when you are

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: braking and turning into say a right-hander the inside wheel which is a right hand side of the

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: wheels travel a lesser distance than the left hand side of the wheel okay and and hence the speed

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: of both these wheels are all so different. So could you brake on each wheel differently which

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: allows them to keep different speeds through the corner in theory this is what it largely stands at

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Formula One is a technical sport it is an engineering innovation engineering challenge and this is what

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: teams have come up with like people use this any this is not new tech it's tech used in other

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: series of racing it's used off-roading as well it's just been employed in in Formula One and

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: you know depending on which side you turn etc these things happen so the FI has plugged

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: this loophole from the summer brake okay and now everyone's just trying to extrapolate

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_02]: which team was exploiting this loophole. If it is indeed Red Bull Sundaram how ironic is it that

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_02]: it's Red Bull now being not allowed to use the technology that was sort of initially

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: originally pioneered by McLaren with their third brake pedal back in 1997 so you've got a harness

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: the abilities of the team who's chasing you to beat them but that seems to be tough

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_02]: because wherever we have gone to proper Red Bull racing territory this year be it a Silverston

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_02]: be it Austria be it I think another one of those races if I'm not mistaken I had in mind notes let

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_02]: me check for a second there have been three races over there Silverston, Austria and Hungary as well

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_02]: yes and also Belgium proper Red Bull racing circuits yes who's won in three out of four

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: of those races it's been Mercedes who has been dominating at Red Bull territory not

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: McLaren as we thought would be the case it's it's a fun little thing that's happening

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: now that Mercedes are the ones picking up the scraps where McLaren should be the ones actually doing it

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: exactly and I don't know if I should say this but one of those wins was gifted to George Russell

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_00]: in Austria because West Appen and Norris collided but either way you're right in terms of numbers

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Mercedes does have that sort of form and it's going to be very interesting in that in that sense

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: you can see you can feel that Mercedes has kind of picked up the scraps on certain locations

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and Mercedes has dropped a lot of points as well and that's going to be crucial for the

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Constructors Championship as well because McLaren have how many points are there 49 points away

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: 42 42 points actually what can actually happen this weekend is if McLaren get it absolutely

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: right this weekend they could top the Constructors standings after the Zandvoort round and for that

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: to happen a lot has to go wrong at Red Bulls in Red Bulls side inside Sergio Perez finishes

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: outside the points once again Max Verstappen has a DNF of some sort in front of his home crowd but

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_00]: in a very long time once again there's the opportunity for a different team to lead the

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Constructors Championship so that's going to be very very interesting but like I said before

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see that happening this weekend it's going to be put off for another weekend

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a mathematical possibility yes right and till the checkered flag doesn't drop the mathematical

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: possibilities there and you know here's the fun part mathematical possibility McLaren getting

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: one two scoring the fastest lap of the race right that that's the tougher part to happen even if

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: the two Red Bulls don't score for example so the the the side that you choose for the

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: mathematical possibility still biased towards Red Bull just because McLaren still has an executed

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: 100% but could this be that one race again that break giving them a chance to regroup to

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: revisit their actions revisit their communications etc and teams do that time and time again right

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: they sharpen their some their tools the decision making their models can McLaren come back

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: they know that this Constructors Championship is theirs to claim they know that they are up

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: against a weaker Red Bull with you know a package that that's suddenly become tough to understand

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: with Perez who's struggling even more so than Max Verstappen and I think the second half of the

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: year is going to be extremely extremely exciting like I tweeted it's going to be a blockbuster

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: literally 10 races as we've got I'm pretty sure by the time we get to Abu Dhabi we'd all

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: be wishing seeing ah we would have we should have had five more races you know just to

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_01]: take us through till the start of 2024 as well. Careful what you asked for. No but that's in

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: it's an interesting point that you say the next 10 races because if you look at the next four

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: races in specific these are races where either Red Bull or Ferrari have done well so take

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Sandvort, take Monza, there's Baku so either Singapore and then there's Baku or the other

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: way around but whatever it is these four are the tracks where Red Bull have dominated,

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: have done well Ferrari have also done well around Singapore so it's going to be interesting if

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: McLaren can kind of topple them in terms of overall race space and form execution over these next four

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: races before we head into the Americas and the Middle East once again so I'm the next four races

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I think are going to be very very crucial but even in that sense we've had the mid-season

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: break it's been four weeks but teams have been working only for two weeks it's been

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: an enforced shutdown so everyone's been off for a two week break so it feels more or less

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: just like any other weekend that's separated by a fortnight but we have four weeks between Singapore

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and the US Grand Prix a month later and that's also going to be interesting there's no forced

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: enforced shutdown then teams can actually work on their cars in those four weeks.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We should have a special content plan we should probably get a couple of guests to

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: break the internet. Not yet not yet but I think the taste is sweeter when you wait for it right

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: so we'll make the people wait and trust me it will be worth it but ringing on just carrying on on this

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: whole debate about what the next half of the season holds I can't help but think about 2009

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: because we were in a similar situation over there where there was one team who had absolutely

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: aced the regulations but then eventually fell off because they couldn't quite develop their car

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: the way they wanted to. Maybe they reached the ceiling maybe there just wasn't enough investment

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: with Braun again it's a bit of a tale that's up in the air so we'll never know but with Red Bull

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: we can clearly tell that they're reaching the limit of understanding the car in terms of all

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: the comments that have come around from people within the team but here's a fun statistic

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: when Braun GP were around in 2009 they won six out of the 10 races before the summer break

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: after that they only won two out of seven so far Red Bull have actually statistically done

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: worse than them they've only won half the races only they've only won seven out of 14 other races

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: in the season so far and just because my greatest friend the greatest predictor in the Formula

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: 1 paddock is going to be back this weekend in the paddock hopefully we should channel him

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: back again I see no reason why Red Bull can't win the next 10 races and I hope this comment is going

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: to work out exactly like Mathieu Binotto's comment on Ferrari in 2022 which is exactly what he said

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I see no reason why we can't win the next 10 races after the summer break

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and they proceeded to win none so again I just want drama. Beautiful plug.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Beautiful plug. I just want drama. We're waiting to see Mathieu Binotto back at a racetrack

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: after so many years he was probably on gardening leave I'm pretty sure I'd love to get pictures of

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: his garden even if it's Google images pictures that are there but no in all seriousness he took

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: over the reins of the Audi F1 team first of August I presume he'll be at the race it'll be

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: his first race in Sauber, Audi, Steak, Finn whatever colors that they come the the fluorescent

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: green colors and his media interaction as well so he may not be the team representative

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: you know but he so by that he may not be in the team press conferences officially but

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: he will have some you know media interactions but why don't we just go back to Sunfood and

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: you know what we've called this episode tour to Sunfood because this this race you know firstly

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: the circuit very old school two words we'll hear all through the weekend is old school circuit

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and we love these old school circuits like we've had a spa what's coming next weekend in Monza

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and the other thing we're going to hear is margin for error because of these big huge wide

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe I can call them fat F1 cars going fast around a narrow circuit right and a circuit with

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: several high medium and slow speed corners with too long DRS zones as well so always exciting

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: to see how these cars tackle different corner ranges but all in all I think it's a very fitting

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: circuit to celebrate an old school driver like Max wish tappan because let's be honest guys the

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: only reason that touch Grand Prix exists is for Max wish tappan to celebrate Max wish tappan

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: all right F1 came back ever since the max wish tappan legend grew or rather the

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Dutch Grand Prix came back after the max wish tappan legend grew in Formula 1 so much so that

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: in 2020 when F1 was deciding to have races without the fans Sunfood said no wait a minute we can't

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: do races without fans we need the fans here we will delay we will defer our return to Formula

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: 1 by a year because we need the fans because we need the fans to celebrate Max wish tappan and for

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: once the orange army which literally travels either to Austria or to Belgium or to different parts

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: of Europe to watch Max wish tappan will now get to watch Max wish tappan at home this weekend

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and if Sundaram's prediction comes true it's going to be a bumper for the the orange army

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: fans turning up in the thousands hundreds of thousands on cycles to watch Max wish tappan

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I always believe that when you drive on your home turf you are often tend to get at least

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: a couple of tenths more and in Max wish tappan's case it's probably going to be half a second in

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: itself in qualifying so you have an arena filled with orange clad fans i'm sure it's gonna

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: he's gonna e-card half a second in qualifying and like you said it's an old school circuit so

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: overtaking is very difficult it's a narrow track we have two banked corners which is rarity but that

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: puts a lot of stress to the through the tires as well so I think Max wish tappan is going to put

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_00]: it on pole and keep the lead until the end of the race but another reason to link it to

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: an old circuit or a classic circuit is if you look at the leaderboards of all the other tracks this

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: season you would often see Hamilton leading the charts or was tappan or a michael schumacher

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: do you know who's leading the the leaderboard at sandfort in terms of race victories it's one

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: of my all-time favorite drivers take a guess sandfort race victories i gym clock

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: gym clock gym class gym clock four victories and if max was tapping wins this time he's going to

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: equal gym clocks record at sandfort yeah i would love him i would actually love gym to hold on to

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: that actually now maybe i should change my prediction but okay but you know i i said

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: max has had three poles three wins so he's had a hundred percent record it's like that

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: sabashan fettle record at the indian crown pri and i think louis louis hamilton

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: has never won in sandfort right uh and i think the other two races are miami and las vegas as

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: well because they've been introduced since whatever he's not had a winning car or whatever you call

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: it so very exciting to see how how all that is going to be and you know the orange army

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: i don't know if they they cheer if an orange car beats their orange flavor driver because that

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: could also be you know my my feeling is mclaren is only going to come stronger they've had

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: 10 podiums they know what they've missed out on and mclaren versus max wish tappan is going to

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: beat the story this weekend it only depends on how many beers the dutch are down

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: to see if they support the orange car or the orange driver it's just all on that

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but it won't take you beers for you to enjoy max because sundaram 2021 was happened to poll here

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: in the midst of a competitive battle against louis hamilton with a faulty drs that's how

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_02]: good he is at this place it's it's a force to reckon with he is a force to reckon with and

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: like i said drivers tend to do good do better around home around the home tracks

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: zhoga new finished p14 at the chinese grand prix whereas another track sees being performing even

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: worse so that's what that's what i feel this weekend is is going to be incredible i think

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_00]: lancetroll also did exceptionally well at the canadian grand prix so that does make difference

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_02]: so it is what it's going to be this weekend as well wait standing ovation guys i'm still

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: still holding on to my point the range should have got it in india zho got it in china we

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: want for max it's if we're just doing the honors for everyone right we might as well

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: actually that's a good point i think max wish tappan hasn't got that standing ovation for all

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that he's done by the dutch fans that he has even joh guanyu got in china that emotional

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: you know attention that that high saying stop everything and just look at me and i look

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: at your product or 21 because they had that dr s issue and he still managed to grab pole position

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and max of course had pole position at spa with a half a second margin and you know poll is again

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: poll margins are something i love to track because 2023 max again again in sun food had

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: a half a second poll but in 2022 it was down to 200s and in 2021 it was down to 300s okay so

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: that's how close it's going to be it is one of the shortest circuits on the calendar 4. something

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: kilometers 72 odd laps that we are going to get and i love those banked corners because they just

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: had a different level of challenge to these drivers the only the only banked corner otherwise

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: that we all still remember is indianapolis okay when when we think of the old indianapolis

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: motor speedway where they made modifications to run f1 cars the banking

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: here is actually twice that of the indianapolis right and i think jeda has some banked corners but

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: it's not banked enough for us to you know visually appreciate that oh that's the banking everyone's

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: talking off and i still remember turn three hoogenholtz a bach as we call it or my touch

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: is bad as it always every year i say this but turn three finando along so if he is starting

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: in a position if he's starting out of position turn three finando along so opening lap he's

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: my man to watch on the driver on board camera definitely that corner is something else they

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: should just rename it the speed racer corner or something so many different lines the one on

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_02]: the inside the one on the outside the one on the extreme outside as well i'm just curious

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: to see as you mentioned canal what happens at the start there and also how the lines

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_02]: evolve now this is something that i particularly want to pay more attention to i saw this last

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: year where at a certain point a certain driver again i'm doing you guys a disservice by not

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: remembering who it was but it's too much too much digging to do for two little value if that's

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: the right thing but i noticed that the drivers at one point of the racetrack were taking a

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: certain line and as the races evolve they were taking the other one and the lines are so

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: dramatically different i don't remember the circumstances but one time they were going

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: extremely above the white line one time they were going a triangular sort of shape one

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: time they were taking just the inside so how do these lines evolve according to the conditions

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that present themselves over the weekend that is something i i will be tracking with more depth

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: this time or that'll be fun to see and that's one thing you can only do at sun vote yeah exactly

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_01]: because multiple lines through a corner typically depends on how much fuel you're carrying what

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: stage of the race you are at are you attacking or defending someone how old are your tires how

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: much of tire management you're doing as well because tire sensitivity is extremely high like

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: sundaram pointed out just because of the the circuit and the way it's designed lots of high

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: speed directional changes i think the front left is what people normally need to take a lot of care

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: of uh i think 14 corners so four to the left 10 to the right if that's what i remember also

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: sand can blow onto the circuit from the sand dunes nearby so that could be an additional

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: challenge as well for this race weekend purely are bringing their hardest compound of the tires

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: out here they've said it'll be a one stopper which pretty much means that the teams would probably

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_01]: move into at least doing a two stop but interestingly you know last year if we were to just look at

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: that that the race last year lonzo was on the podium with pier ghastly so it was a surprise

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: podium we had a mixed weather race sunoda ran 50 laps on the soft tire which is of course

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: the c3 tire which somwell as you pointed out earlier in the season is that higher the maclaran

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: really loves to to to you know excel on and use and then last year also all five tire compounds

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: were used in the race which means the intermediate and the wet tires were put to use as well

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: also this circuit because of the high speed directional changes has a very high

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: mass sensitivity index which means that if you carry more fuel you just end up losing more

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: lap time here just given the nature of the circuit itself right track position is vital

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: strategy is vital because overtaking is very tough as well so maclaran will be of course

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: challenged firstly landowner norris can he nail the start for once because he's had

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: five races where he started from pole tree ground praise two sprints all of them he's gone

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: backwards on the opening lap itself andria still are the engineering brain that he's it's

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: he's missed out on some statistical opportunities on the opening lap because statistics would show

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: that you are able to make better or higher progress on the opening lap than on the laps to

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: follow so that's one and then maclaran needing to of course ace their their strategy because

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_01]: sand food bites in every single way if you get it wrong and there are 72 laps where you could just

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: be stuck behind another car statistically what are they bringing the concept of expected goals

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: into formula one like xg and how that works it's oh my goodness but that is such a what

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_01]: what that means is if you have to make up track position there are statistically higher chances

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to make up more track position on the opening lap than on the laps to follow so andria seller is right

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: just that he put it in a very engineering sense now i see what you mean but football also has a

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_02]: similar index called the xg which basically calculates the quality of your chances

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: based on how often a goal can go from a certain point on the pitch so if you're closer

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_02]: to the goal you get a 0.9 xg the further away you go it tends to get lower back i'm just wondering

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_02]: opening up a pandora's box here because we tend to do these things can we have an xg or an expected

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: pass metric for formula one two where you judge the quality of the pass based on statistically

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_02]: how tricky it was to do by which logic we might end up seeing some crazy random

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: pass that we might have forgotten get a 0.9 xg or whatever it might be like like albin

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: overtaking two cars in the wet in canada for example yeah exactly oh sonora being pushed off

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: wide by finando no alone so going off on the grass and still waving his finger to sonora and then

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_02]: getting past him that would be like a 1.4 xg that's no 0.1 xg impossible

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: liberty media we know you're listening you have lots of graphics lots of sensors lots of data

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: striking distance overtaking distance pit stop window open close safety car window open close

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: here's something we can learn from the world of formula one where there isn't much of data

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: this is this is what we come from a world where everything there's data for but guys

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: let's also transition now to the midfield so that we need to we need to talk about this one

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_02]: thing where our favorite the man who we love the most the man who always gives us

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_02]: incredible quality content to talk about flavio beard only i can't call him team principal

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_02]: but but he's he's an advisor to alpine if my reading is correct can all or what's what's the

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: exact role he's a genius in alpine the only f1 genius in alpine as he says so yeah but he

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: i mean you know it's it's like this he's not a titular head i'm pretty sure of that like most

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: presidents of countries i'm pretty sure he's calling the shots or he's influencing calling

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_01]: the shots and of course now he's got oliver oaks who if he has hired oliver oaks

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: then it makes it easier to call the shots and tell oliver you remember who hired you

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_01]: fire this guy or high actually firing happens faster in alpine than hiring so you never know

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: but no but we should we should give him credit for making at least one good decision which was

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: ousting bruno famine uh quite clearly was for what what was a pretty horrible one year in

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_00]: in charge so at least in that sense he's made at least one correct decision and

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: hiring probably who is the second youngest team principal in formula one after christian honor

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: is probably a step in the right direction maybe it gives them a little bit more stability

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: uh fresh thinking a fresh way of you know implementing procedures and processes i'm

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: i'm all for seeing what oliver oaks can do with that team and but yes still not very happy

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: with flavio being in that team i'll still say that but but you know they need to give oliver all the

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: time and let's hope that oliver is also coming with the right energies and focus because there's

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: also this one side where high tech ground free at a very close relationship with the masopins

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: you know there's a second seat open uh you know there's talk of jack doing being announced at

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: some point there's talk of you know flavio buriatori gave michael schumacher the big

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: world championship break could it be mix schumacher who comes in uh because they've lost out on carlos

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: signs but the worst could happen is if flavio has joined oliver oaks has come and nikita masopin gets

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: a look in just because the oaks have been very close to them or i would say a positive story

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: out of this could be paul aran you know the f2 race winner and and i think he's second he is

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: second in the championship but one of the most consistent formula two drivers in his debut season

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_01]: so lots of rights that oliver oaks and flavio buriatori can do uh you know of course we joke

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: about flavio but you know he knows the business of f1 and he's coming to run the business of an

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: f1 team hey no but there is a valid reason to joke because flavio buriatori what flavio

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: buriatori went to the media and said that this wait let me just fathom this mentally i i need

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: i need to laugh first and get it out of my system so that i can deliver it positively to you guys so

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: here is what flavio said and i quote at the moment you need to put the team together from the commercial

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: site the technical side the management side the driver makes no difference now the difference will

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: be in 26 27 28 this should be the difference for the driver if you have a good car you need a

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: good driver if the car is not performing our point in this moment make sure we put all

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: the energy in the technical side and make sure that the car of alpine is looking better and better

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_02]: in 2026 i believe we see the new alpine that is when the driver will matter

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: basically he's completely completely put a whole load of bollocks on who the second driver is

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: going to be right like he's literally come out there and said it doesn't matter who you are

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: the benchmark is very low figured it out and we'll see in 26 it's i love this comment it's

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_01]: it's him basically saying it does not matter good which as could this be that hint that it doesn't

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: matter if i hire nikita mazip in for all the money it doesn't matter at all it's we'll see in 26

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: now the second driver is it doesn't matter now is this why kallo sain said no you you don't

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: care who your second driver is you don't think the driver makes a difference tata bye bye no if

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: i'm not wrong i think gunthe steiner said the same thing back in 2020 or 2021 when he hired

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: mikshu makra nikita mazip and they had a terrible season if i'm not wrong they didn't score a single

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: point that season alpine are currently eight in the championship they're sitting 11th and it's

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: looking very difficult for them to go up to seventh but they can lose out eighth to williams

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_00]: who are only seven points behind so williams needs just one good or a couple of good weekends

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: to kind of jump alpine for eighth and alpine falls to ninth if that's what flavio brahito

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: means that he doesn't want it doesn't really matter who the second driver is

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: potentially looking at alpine sitting at eighth ninth maybe even tenth next year seriously so

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: you know what milfs are right guys you know the hot milfs in your area i man i love flavio

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what it stands for i'm a milf lover clearly i love flavio for these things it's

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: incredible oh well do we talk about a team whose second driver matters yeah we should

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: let's go for it they don't have a second driver you mean astin martin right okay

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: by the way i'm a little surprised you asked sundaram to pick a parking spot and he didn't

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: say astin martin for his bicycle and he didn't say i will take the finando alonso reserved

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_01]: spot because finando alonso of course is both the twin but sundaram clearly believes

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: otherwise i believe in a lot of things okay but it never comes true so i just try and keep quiet

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: okay on to meseries do you think they're announcing kimmy antonnelli this weekend or are they

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_00]: announcing him next weekend it's happening it's happening before the italian grand prix are after

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: it because it's actually going to be 25 years since the original kimmy was brought into formula one

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: as well if you all remember the eskimo story does anyone remember that that happened if i'm not wrong

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: after the 2000 italian grand prix around this time initial september there was a there was a

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_00]: private test happening around migello and the sauber team grottin a botton a driver who was kept

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_00]: under under wraps on purpose so that others don't snatch him um so they gave him the name eskimo

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and no one really knew who he was until later on they realized it was kimmy reichner who who made

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: his debut in formula one the next year so 25 years since kimmy landed on the scene and it's

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_02]: possibly going to happen around that same time similar fashion to fast track completely fast

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: tracked yeah fast tracked and i also think the zedis would be very cheeky in choosing

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the italian grand prix of course untonelli turns 18 this sunday so technically you know anyway had a

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: dispensation from the f isa not he but any driver showing capabilities could get an exception for a

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: super license but for monza we leave this for monza i'll probably repeat it as well

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: louis hamilton is going to be the most popular driver next weekend even though he's racing

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: for mcsezzi's okay defos he will already want to celebrate a hamilton okay yes we raced in imola

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_01]: this is only the second race in in uh italy the season etc but monza is where farari is

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: celebrated and i think louis is going to be celebrated could mcsezzi's decide to dim those

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: celebrations by announcing louis's replacement but of course it's also andrea kimmy untonelli's

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: home race he will be there for formula two as well so i think that's gonna happen that's the number two

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: driver um that's probably what it's gonna be like i i had a very strong feeling they were waiting up

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: for max max away max was waiting up for them but i think that's probably not happening at least

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: for another year i think max is just going to stay because he's probably very sure of what

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: redbull is doing to fix his car there's a higher chance of his car being fixed here rather than

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: him going and settling elsewhere and he believes that if redbull makes that small step it'll actually

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: be a larger step than most teams combined even though adrian newie and johnson weatley etc i've

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: gone but you never know how how this goes you know max just needs one or one strong reason to go

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: which is mcsezzi's resurrection and then everyone's going to just fall in line decide you know it's

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: like lewis hamilton if he said i'm ready to come to farari farari found space for him it's going to

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: be the same for max wish tappan if max wish tappan says i'm gonna go and race at mcsezzi's

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: mcsezzi's will find space for him and everybody else just falls in place around him it's gonna

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_02]: be goodbye to george russell then i say i mean i see that's that's the tricky part right in

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: no way it's happening in no way are they gonna push out kimmy untonelli and bring in max's

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_00]: unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's going to be george russell unfortunately that that's the kind

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: of decision you get paid multimillion dollars a year for and that's what gets you 33 and 1 3rd

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_02]: percent stake in a team as well and i honestly don't want to make that decision i i'm okay with

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever i have that's that's too much mental stress man seriously it's wow that's some

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_02]: circumstance that we could find ourselves in and hey also speaking of driver changes and all these

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: things remember leon lawson is in the wings and this is the very race last year where we saw his

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: talents for the first time in formula one so that's also a bit of a story that could loop it on by

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_00]: itself the very race where he debuted in formula one and he passed a particular max was stopping

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: as well if you guys remember he overtook max was tapping he actually unlapped himself

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_00]: momentarily and then fell back into place but yes that was i would say that that was still a pass

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: but yes it's it's going to be interesting to see where does he end up next year as well and how do

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: in which direction do rb go as well in terms of their driveland up for for the next season so

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_01]: it's going to be very interesting i would say exciting always so then prediction times predictions

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: what are you doing sundaram's picked his so he doesn't get a chance to go again for the race one yeah

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah i'm done i'm surprised man you guys haven't even thought about waking anywhere he is picking

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: ps3 he's moved away from science he's moved away from science he's now holding on to ps3 no no alex

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: alpone i'm holding on to alex alpone i'm banking for alex alpone to be in the top 10 that is

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_02]: my prediction again you have to manifest not a bad one actually not a bad one i've kind of manifest

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: my way into at least getting williams in the points now so that's see i'm already building up for next

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: year that's what teams do at this stage of the season right they already prepare for next year so

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: williams it is going to be in the top 10 i know why why you're hyping up williams as well for

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: next year okay we all get it i think it's gonna be about karen one two that's my feeling

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_01]: it'll be the 50th one two in the history of formula one in which order i would say good one

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: i would say ps3 not a still fumble to start yeah i don't know why the fumble it could well be

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_01]: ps3 just out qualifies him by their narrow margin and just keeps that margin up ahead i think

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: mclaren is gonna be there he's the only driver to have completed every racing lap in 2024 13 races

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: in the park including sprints including sprints yeah and only driver to lead at least one lap in

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: the last four grand prix right because last four grand prix have been very weird right i think

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_01]: louis hamilton who's one too but has led just 30 laps i think 15 in great britain and 15 in in spa

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: so it just shows how competitive it's gonna be just shows why predictions sound great on a

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_01]: tuesday evening when we record but by the time it's sunday we'll all be laughing on our faces

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_01]: like ha ha ha what just happened there and uh and so on but my my uh you know just just one

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: one thing about sun food since it's been around since 1940 the very fun fact uh is that of course

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: this is a new layout which has mixes of what happened in 40s 90s and now in the 2020s since

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_01]: it's come back but the old layout actually has become a golf course could we see some of the

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: formula one drivers go and just play some golf in the lead up to the race weekend because

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: lendo norris does that alexander albin and his partner color signs does that as well yes so good

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: albon's partner color signs very cheeky slipped in yes that's what will you

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_02]: are going to be the golf family next year on the technique golf family and the cars await

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_01]: as they keep saying which is where they hire two drivers without an appendix that's a joke as it

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: goes maybe this is too old now nicely done yeah but uh you know that's uh that's that's what i'm

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_01]: going to i think it's it's it's going to be a very exciting race this weekend luckily just formula one

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: usually it's formula three two one lots of energy that gets scattered but here's just f1

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: that i'm going to follow which which gives you know what do you say gives me more energy

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_01]: to go deeper into just one one series rather than several other drivers and and so on

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_00]: but wait you mentioned that mclaren are going to be having a one two

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_00]: so where do you think max was tapping is going to finish this weekend

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_00]: same question goes to somer as well he'll get a podium corals going with p3 somer i'm going for the

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_02]: win for max i don't think you can challenge the king in his own home turf now i'm not not happening

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: not happening if it's was happening in belgium or veraat koli and adelaide you just don't

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_02]: bet against them right so it's might as well let the greats do their thing yeah here's a big

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: question sorry here's a since we're talking over shatap and right which team has had most

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: bold positions in the last 10 editions of the dutch country red bull racing mclaren

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_02]: pre-bam or renau i would say renau for of course it's back in the 80s that is there

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and where we had 1000 horsepower in their engines but they had to drop them for the race

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: because again they only last one lap what a generation that was we've actually not spoken at all about

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: farari right because farari is gone from you know we heard 25 years the skmo story he last

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: race for farari farari is gone from having the iceman racing for them to now having the

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_01]: ice cream bala racing for them given that shahla claire has started his ice cream brand in itself

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: you see what's it a nice music sale now i know his brand his brand is called leck lc but yeah

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: the white for the louis angie fruit but that's a good one i yeah i like that you know yeah maybe

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_01]: f1 will take some royalty from the leck brand you never know 1.6 euros a pop

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe because 16 euros is too much right you think exactly 1.6 could be good but in the last

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah in the last 12 races at sun foot six have been one from pole position seven have been one

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: from the front row but 10th place has actually won two times as has fourth place so it's a mixed

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: up one and i think the last six races at sun foot it's either the first place or the 10th place

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_01]: that is one nothing else in the middle so lots of fun stats fun history fun facts from the weekend

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_00]: we should also predict who finishes second in this season that's something we are i'm gonna

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_00]: track and go back to 10 races later so landon oris is currently second shahla claire's pretty

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: close in third then we have piastry sines hamilton in that order russles eighth who do you think finishes

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: second at the end of the championship i don't want no somers are you okay yeah i was doing piastry for

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: this is a pretty sure no no no noris noris no no you cannot choose piastry the points gap is a

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_02]: bit too much is it not okay from what i read 32 32 that's gonna be hard to overcome i mean even

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_02]: though i do believe piastry will evolve better but 32 points is a is this a tough one to cut down

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_01]: unless there's a dnf of some sort so i would say landon oris is gonna get there but you know

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_01]: let's also let's also extend this question we know max wishchap is gonna win he's not gonna

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_01]: have three dns and landon is gonna win three races and suddenly change the the whole picture of

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_01]: the driver's championship but by what margin will max wishchap and win the driver's championship because

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: as the races go by and as the margin gets narrower it also gets more and more nervous for the team

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and driver who are leading will it go down all the way to the wire because max has won the

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: driver's championships four five races before i remember in japan at seven in the morning

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and suddenly his crowned victory everyone's confused has he actually won 2022 if i remember

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: but maybe we should run this poll on social media by what race will max wishchap and win

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the driver's championship but more importantly but by what margin and why don't i start with

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: you samul what do you think his margin is going to be i think it's only going to be

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: between 60 70 points what it is there currently because even though he has been

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: losing races he's still been improving his championship lead believe it or not so i feel

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_01]: it's gonna be there about yeah despite despite all of that i think he it was just monaco and

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: hungary where he lost points to landon every other race he's been there or there or he's not lost

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_01]: points yeah that's a good point so you think it's going to be even stevens even in the next

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_01]: 10 races max and his talent and whatever is going to pull things out his efficiency of

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: scoring strong results will hold him in good stead even though maclaren rather the volatility behind

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_02]: them uh because i feel that again i could very well be wrong i have no basis for this but because

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_02]: there have been so many drivers winning races in the last three four rounds it only benefits max

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: because he's not fighting against one clear contender he's fighting against five so at any

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_02]: given point in time all he has to do is beat landon oris which he has been doing for a bit

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_02]: so apart from a few races here and there as you mentioned only two where he didn't

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_00]: so what do you think sundaram i was just looking at the points table as well so he has a hundred

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_00]: point lead over lecler who's b3 so the only person who he doesn't have a hundred point

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: lead over is landon oris and that's 78 so like somel said he's not just competing against

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_00]: noris he's competing against five other drivers who are taking points away from noris so i'm

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_00]: going to go a little bold and say it's going to be over a hundred points oh over a hundred

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_00]: a bit over a hundred a bit over a hundred and i think he will clinch it at last vigas this is

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: commercial success he's going to have the best celebration ever dude i heard that the bcci

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_02]: has an opening for the chief script officer are you interested you seem to be doing a good

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_00]: job of writing the script so far mr jillian last year as well i did it last year as well in july

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_00]: i predicted that worst happen is going to win it after the cutters print which happened in

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_00]: november and he did on a saturday on a saturday yes so here's my prediction late august i'm

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_02]: saying it's gonna happen last vigas well if it has to the conquest has to begin somewhere

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_00]: that doesn't add up if he has a hundred point lead it's supposed to happen four races before

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_00]: four races before yeah yes it doesn't add up so it's supposed to be either brazil or last vigas now i'm

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_00]: a little now i'm going last vigas screw the points i'm going last vigas i think it's i think

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it's gonna be to the second last race of the season that's my reading and it's going to be

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: about 30 points only i think it's gonna be that close i think that's my my reading but let's see

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: but uh that's it from us this folks normal arora has run out of uh run out of petrol on the last

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: few laps so he's uh he's had a dnf this race preview podcast we will be back after the race

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_01]: in and for our race preview or rather race review and there's of course the the monza preview as well

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_01]: so maybe we'll club the two who knows because i know the other two boys are gonna be at the

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_01]: racetrack and i'd rather they have fun there than sit in front of a mic in a home studio recording

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: a podcast episode so thank you very much for tuning in let's see how this race weekend

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: pans out thank you sundaram and we'll see you after some food