Ferrari has won 3 races in a row only two times in the last 2 decades - in 2008 and then in 2019. Could they do the unthinkable and win again at Interlagos? The final race of the ongoing triple header, the 2024 São Paulo GP, is upon us, and of course, it's also a Sprint weekend format.
Lando Norris needs to out-score Max Verstappen by 12 or more points every race weekend to clinch the Drivers' Championship in Abu Dhabi. While it's a tall order already, could Verstappen's driving antics lead him to score a self-goal aka a DNF? While we hope that there are no unnatural ways to decide this year's championship, a DNF will certainly make things even tighter for Norris-Verstappen and Formula 1.
In this episode of the Inside Line F1 Podcast, Soumil Arora, @f1statsguru and Kunal Shah look forward to this weekend's 2024 São Paulo GP. Will Haas continue to shine? Btw, they're the only team on the grid to have both drivers as previous pole sitters at Interlagos. The circuit and its history is unmatched, and of course, it's known for the overtaking possibilities it offers. But how aggressive will Verstappen's defence be?
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(Season 2024, Episode 55)
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[00:00:20] Just a warning guys, if you hear fireworks like that in the background with our audio, it's because it's Diwali here in India. For everyone celebrating, firstly we all wish you a very happy Diwali. It's meant to be the festival of lights and we often celebrate it with a lot of firecrackers and lots of explosions and that is what we have in store for us this weekend when Formula 1 goes to Sao Paolo.
[00:00:46] I genuinely feel Kunalif, there is a proper Diwali race, one that's full of fireworks, one that's full of light, full of action. It has to be Brazil. Every time we go here, there is always, always some crazy stuff happening.
[00:01:00] And that always also means, historically speaking, I mean it's been almost 50 years, over 50 years actually now, 51 years since we've been racing in Brazil.
[00:01:12] Interlagos, I love the circuit. I love the name of the circuit as well, you know, and why it's actually come up.
[00:01:18] And we don't have a native Brazilian driver, but of course it is the home race for Lewis Hamilton, a country that has officially adopted Lewis and granted him citizenship, isn't it?
[00:01:31] Yeah. Yeah. There we go.
[00:01:36] That's why he's on the graphic.
[00:01:37] Yeah, that's why he's on that.
[00:01:38] Franco Colapinto must be like, yeah, but you know, we are closer to Argentina than the UK is closer to Brazil.
[00:01:44] But he would so much rather not be on the poster for this one.
[00:01:48] Seriously, knowing Argentinians, if he was on the poster for the Brazilian GP.
[00:01:52] I think, I think firstly, he wouldn't be able to tolerate it.
[00:01:55] And then secondly, he wouldn't be welcomed back home for the kind of rivalry they have between the two of them.
[00:02:01] But could this actually be the Argentinian Grand Prix, the unofficial one, given how many people have just started to travel to watch Franco Colapinto race in Formula One?
[00:02:13] I mean, I think that's something we were even discussing, Samuel and I, this week, because Franco Colapinto coming into Formula One has suddenly set the whole country abuzz.
[00:02:24] There's talks about bringing back the Argentinian Grand Prix back to the calendar.
[00:02:29] And it just feels like everyone's been waiting for someone from Argentina to be a part of Formula One so that we can just follow the sport a lot more closely and celebrate it.
[00:02:39] And yes, like you say, this could possibly be the Argentinian Grand Prix.
[00:02:43] A lot of fellow countrymen would probably be at the venue.
[00:02:47] So you'll see a good divide of Brazilians and Argentinians.
[00:02:50] As long as they don't get into a scuffle over football, it should be fine.
[00:02:55] But okay, before we move forward and tell you guys everything about the weekend, like what you should expect,
[00:03:01] the kind of tributes that are going to be coming in for Ayrton Senna,
[00:03:03] and also who this track could favor, what the championship battle could become like,
[00:03:08] and the few key stories you need to keep an eye on,
[00:03:10] we firstly need to say thank you.
[00:03:13] Because a lot of you have been listening to our podcast and a lot of you have been watching us on YouTube as well lately.
[00:03:20] And seriously, folks, thank you for all these incredible comments.
[00:03:23] And it would mean the world for us if you could share this video and this podcast episode,
[00:03:28] if you're listening to other people who love Formula One as well.
[00:03:30] Because we just love growing our tribe.
[00:03:33] And we love to have more people, A, listening in, and B, sharing their opinions and also their bold predictions.
[00:03:40] So if you want to talk to us, if you want to ask any questions on Formula One,
[00:03:44] or even just send your opinions in, say whatever you want to say about the sport,
[00:03:49] you can follow us on at InsideLineF1Pod and we will respond to you.
[00:03:53] And also bring on some of these comments and observations on the show as well.
[00:03:58] But we need to carry on a tradition, guys, because for the last four episodes,
[00:04:02] at the start of the episode, I have been putting you on the spot and I've been asking you for your bold predictions.
[00:04:09] And this also is valid for all of you folks as well, listening and watching.
[00:04:13] We need to know your bold predictions as well.
[00:04:15] But who are we putting on the spot first time here this weekend?
[00:04:19] Is it going to be you, Sundaram Kunal, or should I just go for it?
[00:04:22] Go for it.
[00:04:23] You can just go for it.
[00:04:23] Yeah.
[00:04:24] Yeah.
[00:04:24] Okay.
[00:04:25] I'm saying Carlos Sainz is going to win again.
[00:04:29] No, wait.
[00:04:30] That's my heart speaking.
[00:04:31] My mind before the episode said Lando Norris is going to win and Sainz is going to beat Leclerc.
[00:04:35] But now that I've put it out there, I've put it out there.
[00:04:38] Carlos Sainz is going to win.
[00:04:40] Okay.
[00:04:41] You first.
[00:04:41] You next, Kunal.
[00:04:42] That would mean the first time that Carlos Sainz has back-to-back wins.
[00:04:47] And Ferrari will have three wins on the trot since I don't even know when.
[00:04:51] Okay.
[00:04:52] But I will say that…
[00:04:55] Since 2019, of course.
[00:04:57] Yeah.
[00:04:57] Are we getting carried away?
[00:04:58] Three Ferrari wins in a row sounds wrong.
[00:05:04] No, still I'm going to back myself.
[00:05:05] Sounds un-Ferrari-like.
[00:05:07] But anyway, I'm going to pick Oscar Piastri after three really questionable qualifying sessions and races and whatever is going to beat Lando Norris.
[00:05:21] That's what's going to happen.
[00:05:22] And Joe Guanyu will continue to be the slowest driver in qualifying.
[00:05:28] Something that he's probably done that at almost 50% of the races this year.
[00:05:32] I mean, in head-to-head qualifying battles, Joe Guanyu is 19-1.
[00:05:39] Where, of course, one is Joe Guanyu against Valtteri Bottas.
[00:05:42] I think Joe is just going to…
[00:05:44] You know, it's like this.
[00:05:47] Naren Karthikeyan, the only Indian F1 driver to finish a season and more and whatever, will always be remembered for qualifying 24th and last.
[00:05:55] There is that one stat which will never leave him.
[00:05:58] I think this is going to be that Joe Guanyu stat.
[00:06:01] The only Chinese driver.
[00:06:02] And luckily, not a lot of Chinese people tune in because we don't speak in Chinese and they use different apps to consume content in their world.
[00:06:12] But Joe Guanyu might just be the only Chinese driver ever in iPhone.
[00:06:16] But with that record of highest or maximum number of last place finishes or last place qualifying record.
[00:06:25] Two things.
[00:06:26] We firstly were asking for a bold prediction.
[00:06:28] This wasn't bold at all.
[00:06:30] You just stated the facts that we've all seen throughout the season.
[00:06:34] And secondly, we are repairing our relations with China, Kunal.
[00:06:37] India is now in talks with pulling its military back and China also doing the same.
[00:06:41] So, you didn't have to…
[00:06:43] No, no.
[00:06:44] I just gave a sporting…
[00:06:46] An absolute sporting suggestion.
[00:06:48] If it was Joe Guanyu leading the driver's championship with Lando Norris attacking him to claim it back, I would be praising Joe Guanyu as well.
[00:06:57] But yeah, not when you are last for over 50% of the races of the season.
[00:07:03] And Naren didn't get that kind of standing ovation or moment with the fans that Joe did.
[00:07:10] So, we are slightly jealous also.
[00:07:12] Slightly, Sundaram.
[00:07:13] Oh, we are.
[00:07:14] We definitely are.
[00:07:17] But while you were speaking about this and since you mentioned Ferrari taking three wins in a row, which feels very odd.
[00:07:23] I couldn't help but actually go back into my database and figure out how many times has this happened recently.
[00:07:30] And this is where the start of a birth is happening live.
[00:07:33] So, since Michael Schumacher left Ferrari in 2006, Ferrari has won three races in a row.
[00:07:39] Just twice.
[00:07:41] Just twice.
[00:07:42] No.
[00:07:43] Yes.
[00:07:44] Once in 2008.
[00:07:47] The fireworks are actually perfectly timed because A, it's a live stat.
[00:07:53] And B, it's a Ferrari three wins on the trot stat.
[00:07:55] Go for it.
[00:07:56] You were saying 2008.
[00:07:57] Like a laddie itself, right?
[00:07:58] It's like a firecracker in itself.
[00:08:00] Those are red as well.
[00:08:02] But yes, it happened once in 2008 with Kimi Raikkonen and Massa.
[00:08:07] And then in 2019.
[00:08:08] So, that was between Sebastian Vettel and Charles Leclerc.
[00:08:11] So, just twice.
[00:08:12] They have won three races in a row in the last nearly two decades.
[00:08:17] And I would love to see a Ferrari win this weekend because that would mean they take a clean sweep.
[00:08:23] Of wins in the triple header.
[00:08:24] They've never done that.
[00:08:26] So, I would love to see that.
[00:08:27] So, sensibly speaking, if my prediction is there, I would sensibly say, sure, maybe a McLaren might be fast enough.
[00:08:34] Ferrari could challenge them for the win or so.
[00:08:37] But if you want to make it bold, I still feel that Max Verstappen is going to be winning at least one more race this season.
[00:08:45] I'm not sure in the drive that opportunity really presents itself.
[00:08:51] But since it might rain, I'm just putting a few points in Verstappen's bag thinking that maybe this could be the track where he comes back in the rain, in the wet.
[00:09:02] And puts forward a dominant performance, wins the race.
[00:09:06] That's my bold prediction.
[00:09:07] We should talk about this, you know, because you're right.
[00:09:10] The weather forecast, as we can see on our screen, if you're watching us on YouTube, says it's going to be rainy as hell on Sunday.
[00:09:18] And the forecast for rain is generally there for both these days, for Saturday and Sunday, which is similar, if I am not mistaken, to what we saw in 22, wasn't it?
[00:09:30] We had rain here a couple of years ago, too.
[00:09:32] We have rain here all the time.
[00:09:33] All the time.
[00:09:34] Yeah, yeah.
[00:09:34] I mean, Sao Paulo is actually called the land of the drizzle.
[00:09:38] Okay, that's what I was reading about the city.
[00:09:41] And I think one in three days is a rainy day in November.
[00:09:46] That's just the amount of rain you get to see in Sao Paulo at this time of the year.
[00:09:53] And I will absolutely love it to have some rain and mix up the pecking order again.
[00:10:00] Because my prediction actually missed the fact that it's going to rain.
[00:10:05] But I will still back, you know, Oscar Piastri for beating Lando Norris.
[00:10:11] Although, I'd also love to see how the upgraded Ferrari goes in the rain.
[00:10:15] I mean, they are chasing their 250th Grand Prix win as an engine manufacturer in Formula 1.
[00:10:22] And they've never won a sprint.
[00:10:24] So, they've got two chances to actually claim a win this weekend.
[00:10:28] Although, I'm pretty sure a sprint race win is not counted as a win in the Grand Prix table where it'll be their 250th win as a power unit manufacturer.
[00:10:40] Just continuing from that stat, maybe a little bit of trivia for all our listeners and viewers as well.
[00:10:46] So, Kunal mentioned that if Ferrari wins this weekend, this could be their 250th race victory as an engine supplier.
[00:10:52] The most by any engine manufacturer in an F1.
[00:10:55] So, which means we're currently on 249.
[00:10:58] And out of those 249, only one race win has gone to a customer team.
[00:11:04] Not by the Scuderia Ferrari.
[00:11:06] Anyone remember who's that?
[00:11:07] Of course.
[00:11:08] How can we forget?
[00:11:09] How can we forget the birth of a legend?
[00:11:12] The birth of a four-time world champion at Ferrari's home circuit?
[00:11:15] Indeed.
[00:11:16] Sebastian Vettel, Italy 2008.
[00:11:17] The first ever race I watched.
[00:11:19] Can never forget that one.
[00:11:20] Indeed.
[00:11:21] And if I'm not wrong, yes.
[00:11:23] Toro Rosso actually won a race even before the senior team won a race in 2009.
[00:11:28] So, Red Bull actually signed a race winner in 2009.
[00:11:33] Indeed.
[00:11:33] And the only race winning driver they had in that team was the one they picked up from their junior team.
[00:11:40] And not Mark Webber.
[00:11:41] Because remember, Webber won his first race in the middle of 2009.
[00:11:44] It's crazy how those timelines sort of fit around.
[00:11:47] And since we are now going to see Fernando Alonso in his 401st race weekend.
[00:11:52] By the way, there was an intestinal infection.
[00:11:55] The team has just released a statement.
[00:11:58] So, between...
[00:12:01] Fernando Alonso had an intestinal infection in Mexico.
[00:12:06] So, he flew back to Europe for treatment.
[00:12:09] And his flight back has been delayed by a day.
[00:12:12] So, he won't be there for media duties.
[00:12:14] But he is going to race this weekend.
[00:12:15] 401st race weekend.
[00:12:17] But the reason why I bring it up is, of course, Dr. Helmut Marko has revealed on our podcast earlier
[00:12:23] how they had conversations with Fernando Alonso several times to join Red Bull.
[00:12:28] But Fernando said no.
[00:12:29] In the latest Beyond the Grid podcast, Fernando himself said that he had the chance to join Red Bull in 2009 and 2010.
[00:12:39] And they were waiting for him.
[00:12:40] But he chose to not go there.
[00:12:42] And it all ties into what you guys were talking of.
[00:12:46] Sebastian Vettel, who ended up winning at Toro Rosso with a Ferrari power unit, went to Red Bull.
[00:12:52] And then, of course, went to Ferrari as well.
[00:12:54] History.
[00:12:55] What a story.
[00:12:56] Yeah.
[00:12:57] It's a crazy story how it works out.
[00:12:59] But no, Fernando will be fun to watch in race 401.
[00:13:03] But before we get to all of that, before we also tell you about a cost cap breach that has occurred in Formula 1,
[00:13:10] we need to tell you who we are.
[00:13:11] It's time for a round of quick introductions because we tend to forget it otherwise.
[00:13:16] We're very careless that way because we feel it's the last thing we should do.
[00:13:20] But no, I've got to be the disciplinarian here and we've got to bring us back on track.
[00:13:24] That's the four of us.
[00:13:25] Kunal, Mithila, myself and our very own F1, Statsguru Sundaram.
[00:13:29] The only one with a cool, catchy name among all of us.
[00:13:31] Yeah.
[00:13:31] So my first name is F1.
[00:13:33] My surname is Statsguru.
[00:13:35] I don't have F.
[00:13:36] I don't even have a pseudo name.
[00:13:37] Yeah.
[00:13:37] That's my actual name on my Adharkar as well.
[00:13:40] So in the wedding, will it be like F1 weds someone, someone?
[00:13:47] F1 weds FE maybe.
[00:13:52] F1 weds IndyCar if she's American.
[00:13:54] I don't know.
[00:13:55] Yeah.
[00:13:56] But interesting because I'm pretty sure Liberty Media is going to come and slap a legal notice on your first name, F1.
[00:14:06] Please.
[00:14:08] You can't do that if your kid's name is F1, right?
[00:14:11] I mean, legally.
[00:14:12] If I just name my kid Formula One, what are you going to do about it?
[00:14:16] It's just their name.
[00:14:17] Give it a shot.
[00:14:18] See if you get a legal notice and then tell me.
[00:14:21] Legal notice will be second.
[00:14:23] I think I'll firstly get a notice from the partner.
[00:14:26] It'll be like, are you stupid?
[00:14:27] Are you that big of a nerd?
[00:14:29] That'll be a better name than what Elon Musk has given his child a name.
[00:14:33] X-A-E-3-U-A.
[00:14:36] Yeah, it's weird.
[00:14:38] That's the Wi-Fi password.
[00:14:41] That's odd.
[00:14:42] But okay, introductions.
[00:14:43] Let's get back.
[00:14:44] I love to introduce Kunal always because he's the man who introduced this podcast to all of us.
[00:14:49] He's the one who founded the Inside Line F1 podcast all those years ago, back when he was the marketing head of the Force India Formula One team.
[00:14:57] Today, you of course can see him here on the Inside Line F1 podcast.
[00:15:01] But if you live in Norway or if you have a VPN, if you find a way to cheat Kunal's company and don't pay for it, you can see him on Viaplay's F1 broadcasts as the Formula One expert with a K, not an X.
[00:15:12] Which is what my dad noticed, which is very cool actually, the way the Norwegian spell it.
[00:15:17] But he's an F1 expert there and also the producer for the broadcast, which is quite cool.
[00:15:21] And his work across motorsport stretches over to the field of writing as well, as he's written for the likes of Autosport, Motorsport.com, Forbes, Auto X, First Post as well.
[00:15:32] It's a very comprehensive list and always good to be sharing the platform with you, Kunal.
[00:15:37] Likewise.
[00:15:38] Thank you.
[00:15:38] And I'm going to take the turn to then introduce Samuel Arora.
[00:15:43] Or actually, why don't I introduce?
[00:15:44] Yeah, no, I should introduce Sundaram, right?
[00:15:48] The man behind all the cool...
[00:15:49] Who's Sundaram?
[00:15:50] Who's Sundaram?
[00:15:51] Yeah, F1 stats guru.
[00:15:52] I don't know who Sundaram is.
[00:15:54] I've never met him.
[00:15:59] A doppelganger out there with a different longer name out there, which will not include a legal notice from Formula One.
[00:16:08] But F1 stats guru, as we all know him, you've definitely consumed all his stats, either legally or illegally,
[00:16:17] given just the number of people who steal his stats without credit.
[00:16:20] And present them as their own.
[00:16:22] But if you consume F1 Academy, even on Sky Sports, BBC, 5 Live, On The Race and several other reputed media houses that present Formula One to you,
[00:16:35] there's a very good chance you have consumed F1 stats guru's amazing stats.
[00:16:40] His stats have been retweeted, re-shared by Mr. 401, Fernando Alonso himself.
[00:16:48] And Sundaram is a part of the WTF on talent roster.
[00:16:52] Thank you for that wonderful introduction.
[00:16:55] It keeps getting better each time.
[00:16:56] But yes, maybe it's now my turn to introduce my brilliant co-host, Samuel Arora.
[00:17:01] So you've been hearing him a fair bit right now.
[00:17:03] And you've probably understood that he loves talking and he does a terrific job at it.
[00:17:07] But he's all of 20 and he's been doing this for the last seven, eight years.
[00:17:12] And it really shows because he's done over 300 episodes of the Inside Line F1 podcast.
[00:17:18] But also beyond that, he's in and around Indian Motorsport.
[00:17:23] If there's a voice you need to hear in Indian Motorsport, it has to be Samuel.
[00:17:27] So he's definitely been the voice of the Indian MotoGP race last year.
[00:17:31] And he's also been an expert Formula E expert that is on Sony ESPN.
[00:17:37] And he's also along with me in the comms room of the Indian Racing League and the Indian F4 Championship.
[00:17:43] We have the season finale coming up as well.
[00:17:45] So yes, he's also the lead commentator there and host for that series as well.
[00:17:50] But he's also done Supercross.
[00:17:52] He's also done a fair bit of stuff with Geo Cinema and Starsports.
[00:17:55] So a lot of experience for all of just 20 years old.
[00:17:58] And you're going to see a lot more of him.
[00:18:00] But fun fact, this is going to be my last episode on the Inside Line F1 podcast
[00:18:04] as someone who cannot legally drink.
[00:18:08] Because your birthday is coming up this next month.
[00:18:12] It's literally on race day, isn't it?
[00:18:14] Oh, no, the day after.
[00:18:15] Oh, I think we're recording on my birthday next time.
[00:18:17] Oh, that's going to be.
[00:18:18] On Monday?
[00:18:19] Yeah, yeah, we are.
[00:18:21] There you have it.
[00:18:21] Interesting.
[00:18:22] Interesting.
[00:18:23] No, so the drinking game jokes can no longer continue now.
[00:18:27] I can play the drinking game properly.
[00:18:30] Not without a police line.
[00:18:30] Legally.
[00:18:31] Since legal is the key word in the first 18 minutes of this episode.
[00:18:36] Hey, even Kimmy Antonelli drove before he was of age, right?
[00:18:41] Right in Formula.
[00:18:42] But the racing license doesn't need...
[00:18:47] The racing license age is different than the road car driving license.
[00:18:51] So, for example, in a lot of countries, you can get a racing license at 16.
[00:18:55] And if they make exceptions, even earlier than that.
[00:18:58] I got my drinking license from my dad at the age of 17.
[00:19:01] So, the legalities and the police can do whatever they want about that.
[00:19:06] I've got my drinking license already.
[00:19:08] But we should talk about the circuit first.
[00:19:12] I mean, let's come back to Formula 1 because we've had a lot of fun in the meantime.
[00:19:16] And we're going to have a lot of fun on the way as well.
[00:19:19] But Sundaram, you have been digging through lots of really important and really fun numbers for the Brazilian GP.
[00:19:24] Why don't you take us through all of them and let me know when I have to move to a different slide.
[00:19:28] Because there are quite a few of them here.
[00:19:30] And quite a few of them with some really fun graphics that you've pulled out for all of us.
[00:19:34] I'd love to see the slide because I can't see it right now.
[00:19:37] It's coming on the way.
[00:19:38] Okay.
[00:19:38] There it is.
[00:19:39] It's on the way.
[00:19:39] Past the final corner.
[00:19:40] But yes.
[00:19:40] So, we have to talk about...
[00:19:42] So, first of all, let's get the pronunciation right.
[00:19:45] It's not Sao Paulo.
[00:19:46] And I often say this every year.
[00:19:47] It's Sao Paulo.
[00:19:49] Sao Paulo.
[00:19:49] Not Sao.
[00:19:50] It's actually Sao.
[00:19:51] You have a little bit of...
[00:19:53] I don't know what you say.
[00:19:54] But it's Sao Paulo.
[00:19:55] Sao Paulo.
[00:19:56] And yes.
[00:19:58] Talking about Interlagos.
[00:19:59] I feel it's a very important circuit for Formula 1.
[00:20:01] It's a very special circuit.
[00:20:03] Yes.
[00:20:03] There's a lot of history.
[00:20:04] There are lots of Brazilian drivers who've also come through the years.
[00:20:08] And it's a sport.
[00:20:10] It's a country that loves its Formula 1 and its drivers.
[00:20:13] But also in terms of racing.
[00:20:14] Maybe if you move to the next slide, Sao Paulo.
[00:20:16] In terms of racing, it's very, very important for Formula 1.
[00:20:19] Just because of the number of overtakes and the quality of racing that you see in Brazil.
[00:20:24] And it's unmatched.
[00:20:26] If you wonder why Brazil or Interlagos is the only track that's been on the sprint calendar
[00:20:32] every year since its inception.
[00:20:34] One of the reasons is the number of overtakes.
[00:20:37] Because in the first year of the sprint in 2021, we had Silverstone.
[00:20:41] We had Monza.
[00:20:42] The more historical, the more classic and more celebrated tracks.
[00:20:46] But they didn't provide the sort of overtaking that F1 wanted to have.
[00:20:51] Interlagos in that sense has often produced over 40, 45 overtakes every single time.
[00:20:56] And coupled with weather as well.
[00:20:58] Wet weather.
[00:21:00] You can get to see a lot of passes on race day.
[00:21:03] Yes, Kunal.
[00:21:04] Yeah, and the key thing, while I know you were digging the data, the beautiful thing about
[00:21:10] Interlagos is it's always had a higher chance of overtaking even before the DRS.
[00:21:17] Okay, so Formula 1 has been racing in Brazil for 51 years.
[00:21:21] I think 30 plus years at Interlagos given that it's gone around and then set foot here.
[00:21:27] But that's the beauty of the circuit.
[00:21:29] That it's not relied on those super long DRS straights to pull out good racing and overtakes.
[00:21:38] And I love the history.
[00:21:40] But I also love this fact that it doesn't matter what the formula of Formula 1 is.
[00:21:45] The formula of Interlagos is that you will get good racing.
[00:21:48] And it really helps that we have a tremendously long straight at the first corner.
[00:21:55] Let me pull up a graph for you to show you more about that.
[00:21:57] But the first straight is huge.
[00:21:59] And it comes up after a few really slow corners where cars tend to be bunched up.
[00:22:04] Some people can try to get as close as possible.
[00:22:06] And then there's a long run where you can slipstream so much.
[00:22:10] And come to think about it, right?
[00:22:12] There are so many opportunities at the circuit where you can actually go side by side.
[00:22:16] Like we saw in 2021 when Lewis Hamilton was fighting through the field.
[00:22:20] You can pass at the first corner at the Senna S's.
[00:22:23] You can go down the hill at Desira Dolago and then turn 4, turn 5.
[00:22:26] Where some people take different lines.
[00:22:28] We'll get to that in a second.
[00:22:30] But there's so many places where you can go side by side.
[00:22:34] Even after that turn 4, 5 segment, we have seen a few cars go wheel to wheel with each other.
[00:22:39] Here, if you take a keen look at the right-hander at turn 6 and 7.
[00:22:43] You can literally go fighting for two-thirds of the circuit and you'll be fine.
[00:22:48] So that's incredible how the way the circuit flows.
[00:22:52] We're not going to talk about the next slide.
[00:22:57] Someone very creatively drew Max Verstappen's lines.
[00:23:01] I found this on social media and somebody forwarded it to me on WhatsApp.
[00:23:06] And my goodness, this is for all our Dutch listeners.
[00:23:10] And I know one of our listeners actually writes in saying there's a drinking game each time Kunal says.
[00:23:15] Thousands of listeners from a country, whatever.
[00:23:18] But no offense.
[00:23:19] This is just enjoying a good banter.
[00:23:22] That given how Max Verstappen has been driving so aggressively on and off the circuit,
[00:23:27] this is probably what his racing lines are going to look like.
[00:23:31] And they are an inspiration from 2021 as well, right?
[00:23:34] Because he's of course found a way to make sure he just keeps his title rivals behind come what may.
[00:23:42] So turn 4, turn 5 is the Verstappen line.
[00:23:45] Turn 5, turn 6 and 7 is like the Yano Trullian Adrian Superline.
[00:23:49] And the Adrian Superline, yes.
[00:23:51] From 2009 as well.
[00:23:54] And 2013 is probably Kimi Raikkonen.
[00:23:56] He went into the, what do you call it?
[00:24:00] The old circuit, yeah.
[00:24:01] Yes.
[00:24:02] And then he was surprised that they'd locked the gate there.
[00:24:06] He's saying it's always used to be open.
[00:24:08] So exactly, you can rename a lot of these corners after them.
[00:24:11] But I hope Verstappen doesn't have to do this.
[00:24:14] Because like I said, there's lots and lots of overtaking opportunities at Interlagos.
[00:24:18] And it always produces quality, good racing.
[00:24:22] But what do you mean Verstappen doesn't have to do this?
[00:24:25] The reason why I ask is if there are lots of overtaking opportunities,
[00:24:29] there are fewer defensive opportunities for Max.
[00:24:32] Because given how it's been going, I think McLaren have just been quicker throughout.
[00:24:37] Which means if Max again pulls out a qualifying masterclass,
[00:24:41] which he's very capable of.
[00:24:44] And Lando for some reason is alongside him or just around or behind him or whatever.
[00:24:49] We might just see that Lando's again going to need to overtake him.
[00:24:55] So more overtaking chances also means more chances for Max to get dirty, I guess, right?
[00:25:00] Which is where, in my opinion,
[00:25:03] the most important session of the entire weekend is going to be qualifying.
[00:25:07] For everyone.
[00:25:08] I mean, it normally also is.
[00:25:10] But if you're Lando Norris particularly,
[00:25:12] because you know Verstappen will elbow you out.
[00:25:14] You know he's going to play dirty.
[00:25:16] Maybe not as dirty as last time.
[00:25:18] We shall find out.
[00:25:19] Which is also going to be a fun story for this weekend.
[00:25:22] Just how dirty does Max get?
[00:25:24] But to me, Sundaram,
[00:25:25] if I am Lando Norris,
[00:25:26] my entire focus,
[00:25:28] of course,
[00:25:29] apart from nailing points in the sprint,
[00:25:31] how can I get that perfect first lap?
[00:25:33] And then we'll figure it out.
[00:25:34] Because the moment you're in the clutches of a Max or even the Ferraris,
[00:25:37] I think it's going to be a very tough place to be for Norris.
[00:25:42] Indeed, it's going to be difficult for him.
[00:25:44] Because I think he said this several number of times.
[00:25:47] That he's trying to learn.
[00:25:48] And he'll learn from this battle with Verstappen.
[00:25:50] And it's happened three times already.
[00:25:52] It's happened in Austria.
[00:25:53] It's happened in USA.
[00:25:54] It's happened in Mexico.
[00:25:55] Clearly, it doesn't seem that he's learned a lot.
[00:25:57] Because he knows the limits to which Max can go.
[00:26:00] And ultimately, it's affecting his championship battle.
[00:26:04] Max knows what he's doing.
[00:26:06] He's basically putting Norris off his championship path.
[00:26:11] And that's not helping Norris.
[00:26:12] So he really needs to put the car in P1.
[00:26:15] He really needs to put the car in pole position in the sprint and in the race.
[00:26:19] If he really wants to have a good chance at the title.
[00:26:22] Because if you end up behind Verstappen,
[00:26:24] it's going to be a difficult way to get past him.
[00:26:27] And Max has actually not been on pole for nine races now.
[00:26:33] And this is after having seven races.
[00:26:36] Ten races.
[00:26:37] Yeah, okay.
[00:26:37] Some number.
[00:26:38] Ten races.
[00:26:38] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:26:40] Which means that in about 13 races, he's just at one pole position.
[00:26:43] And this is after taking pole position in the first seven races of the year.
[00:26:49] And I love or rather I don't like how F1 even considers a streak from the previous year.
[00:26:54] So if you consider Abu Dhabi last year, he's actually on an eight.
[00:26:58] He has a record now of eight consecutive pole positions, right?
[00:27:03] So Max going up there is as crucial as Lando being up there as well.
[00:27:07] Max, although, is the only driver to have made it to Q3 at all the races this season.
[00:27:12] Which again is another beautiful fact of just how good a driver that he is.
[00:27:18] But who's left in the title battle?
[00:27:20] This is extremely interesting because there are just four drivers in it now.
[00:27:24] There's Max Verstappen, 47 points behind is Lando Norris.
[00:27:28] He needs to make big inroads into Max this race weekend.
[00:27:32] 12 points on an average every race weekend.
[00:27:35] And it's easier on this and the Qatar weekend given that more points are available from the sprint.
[00:27:43] 71 points behind is Charles Leclerc.
[00:27:47] And then 111 points behind is Oscar Piastri.
[00:27:51] And I know Samuel was heartbroken that despite winning in Mexico,
[00:27:55] Carlos Sainz got eliminated in the championship challenge from a mathematical point of view.
[00:28:02] But why don't we just switch gears to Verstappen versus Norris?
[00:28:06] And I don't want to go into what happened in Austin, what happened in Mexico.
[00:28:11] Was it right, wrong?
[00:28:13] But I actually want to bring up a question, you know.
[00:28:16] Sure.
[00:28:17] Max Verstappen has been compared to Ayrton Senna several, several years to go.
[00:28:23] Okay, this is interesting.
[00:28:24] The driver's championship battle, since we spoke of Lando Norris needing 12 points every race weekend.
[00:28:29] This is a graph which is on our social media pages, which shows every race weekend and how the points has swung between the two drivers.
[00:28:37] This is made by our friend Nityanand.
[00:28:40] And it was only in Australia where Lando Norris scored more than the 12 points to Max Verstappen.
[00:28:47] And that too was a DNF, right?
[00:28:49] So could a DNF be coming in for Max Verstappen till he actually mathematically seals the title compared to Lando Norris?
[00:28:57] And the reason why I ask could is not on reliability grounds.
[00:29:01] But if Max does keep driving dangerously, could he at some point self-inflict damage on his own car,
[00:29:10] leading him to either retire or needing a lengthy pit stop or just finishing outside of the points?
[00:29:17] Yes, he's too good for that, I feel.
[00:29:20] But in my opinion, this is where you need a Valtteri Bottas from Hungary 2021.
[00:29:25] This is where Oscar Piastri has to be metamorphosized into Valtteri 2.0 with just one clear instruction.
[00:29:33] Make contact on the wheels and make sure that you're ahead of the apex.
[00:29:38] Take him out and we'll figure out the rest.
[00:29:40] Do whatever you have to.
[00:29:42] Because without a DNF, mathematically, it's starting to look so tricky, Sundaram.
[00:29:47] And even if Lando has the perfect weekend, the perfect start, the perfect qualifying, no goof-ups,
[00:29:53] like a better weekend in Singapore, which is hard to have,
[00:29:57] it still is going to be all washed away for Stappen.
[00:30:00] Just ends up coming third or fourth or second or something like that.
[00:30:03] Because then he's not losing as much as he should, ideally.
[00:30:06] Exactly.
[00:30:06] To lose the championship, that is.
[00:30:07] Exactly.
[00:30:08] And like Kunal said, Australia is the only race where Norris has managed to outscore
[00:30:12] Verstappen by 15 points.
[00:30:14] And Norris needs that because if Verstappen finishes third or fourth, it's really not helping his
[00:30:19] cause in the championship.
[00:30:21] A DNF will really change that in that regard.
[00:30:25] But the thing is, Verstappen's been quite lucky also because if he's been battling his
[00:30:30] championship rival, like how he's done in Austria or in the USA or in Mexico, he's been
[00:30:36] lucky not to have a DNF as well because he's pushed really hard and not come out of the
[00:30:40] DNF.
[00:30:41] And it's very rare to see a Max Verstappen DNF as well.
[00:30:44] He's had only three DNFs in the last three seasons, all due to, I think, brake issues
[00:30:49] or hydraulic issues or gearbox issues.
[00:30:51] Only three of them.
[00:30:52] The last time he actually crashed out with someone was with a certain Lewis Hamilton back
[00:30:57] at Monza.
[00:30:57] So even considering the way he chooses to drive or battle his rivals, it's very rare
[00:31:04] to see him retiring from a race.
[00:31:06] But if he does in the next couple of races, I think it's important for Norris that Verstappen
[00:31:12] DNFs soon rather than later because it also helps momentum go in his favor.
[00:31:19] And it'll also put a lot of pressure on Max Verstappen leading into the final race that
[00:31:24] DNF needs to come and come soon.
[00:31:26] And I'm only speaking from Lando Norris's perspective.
[00:31:28] I like that you made a reference to 2021 Monza because what happened then is Max kept having
[00:31:34] this you yield or we crash approach.
[00:31:37] Lewis did not yield and they crashed.
[00:31:40] I'm not going into who was right, wrong or whatever and so on then.
[00:31:45] We've seen this in history with Ayrton Senna, 30 years to his passing away.
[00:31:50] We're going to be celebrating that.
[00:31:51] Lewis Hamilton's going to be celebrating Ayrton Senna's legacy.
[00:31:54] We're not celebrating his passing away.
[00:31:56] Sorry, what I meant is his legacy.
[00:31:59] Similarly, Max Verstappen has been spoken about in the same light as Michael Schumacher.
[00:32:05] Right.
[00:32:06] In the case of Schumacher, we know what he did in 94 to Damon Hill after crashing his own
[00:32:13] car a few corners before.
[00:32:15] For everyone viewing this, this is the title deciding moment when Michael just did not give
[00:32:22] Damon Hill space and he had crashed just before and he was going to retire or have a lengthy
[00:32:27] pit stop and lose the race and the championship or lose the championship in this case.
[00:32:31] But he also made Damon Hill crash and retire into his own car.
[00:32:37] So we've seen this in 94.
[00:32:38] We saw this in 97 with Villeneuve and Michael again at Harris.
[00:32:44] And of course, Michael was then disqualified for the whole season.
[00:32:47] So I'm not saying Max is going down this direction.
[00:32:50] But what I mean is the way he's driving.
[00:32:53] It's just so beautifully surprising right now that he's never had a DNF after 2021 Monza.
[00:33:02] And despite all the, you know, of course, Austria happened where they touched wheels and he still
[00:33:06] finished and so on.
[00:33:07] So we've seen Schumacher do this.
[00:33:09] We've seen Senna do this as well.
[00:33:11] Take things in their own hands when they've not had the package to deliver on track because it's that
[00:33:18] winning at all cost mentality.
[00:33:20] And could that really happen to Max Verstappen at some point?
[00:33:23] Just to answer what you were saying, Sundaram.
[00:33:26] And I'd like to bring up a point that Martin Bruntel did point out when he wrote his post-Mexican GP
[00:33:33] column.
[00:33:34] He said that you have more talent in your little finger than the rest of us could have.
[00:33:39] You don't have to do this.
[00:33:41] You just don't want to be remembered that way.
[00:33:43] And I kept on thinking about that.
[00:33:45] You don't want to be remembered because it's the same thing I've been saying for over a
[00:33:49] couple of weeks now.
[00:33:50] And I've been thinking about it.
[00:33:51] And he doesn't care about how he wants to be remembered.
[00:33:54] But come to think about it in the long run, just putting a perspective out there.
[00:33:58] Nobody remembers Senna and Schumacher for these things.
[00:34:02] When we think of Senna and Schumacher first, we think of 91 victories or numerous pole positions
[00:34:08] that Senna got in the first place and the amazing wins and battles.
[00:34:11] It's later when people like us tend to sit down and watch the races or think about the
[00:34:16] battles that these things come out.
[00:34:18] But to the broader public, you, I mean, dare I say, go out as a hero.
[00:34:24] Right?
[00:34:25] Right?
[00:34:26] I don't know.
[00:34:27] Legacy is a very subjective thing.
[00:34:31] And perceptions do change because I think when Sebastian Vettel was with Red Bull, I don't
[00:34:36] think so.
[00:34:37] I'm sure a lot of people loved him.
[00:34:38] But then I think he also had his fair share of critiques as well, especially after what
[00:34:43] happened in Malaysia 2013.
[00:34:45] He had this bad boy image.
[00:34:47] But then once he moved to Ferrari and once he moved then to Aston Martin, he became a more
[00:34:52] likable character, which is what I feel.
[00:34:54] And he ended his career really on a high.
[00:34:57] And I think he's one of the most loved drivers.
[00:34:58] But not many people remember that Schumacher was disqualified in 97 for pulling out a very,
[00:35:06] what do you say, ill-hearted move.
[00:35:09] And he finished second in the championship that season.
[00:35:11] If not for that disqualification, he would have been second.
[00:35:14] And I think this is a trait that you see in a lot of champions.
[00:35:17] You see that in Senna.
[00:35:18] It's also arguable to say, discuss, you know, if was Senna to blame for the Prost-Senna clash
[00:35:23] in Suzuka or did Prost have something to do with that as well?
[00:35:26] I think some drivers or some champions tend to have this.
[00:35:30] I think it comes with that, with being a world champion that sometimes you just want
[00:35:35] just way too ruthless.
[00:35:36] And you just want to make a statement by saying that you don't battle with me.
[00:35:40] It's not going to end well for you.
[00:35:41] It's a great point.
[00:35:42] And, you know, it's just some portion of world champions.
[00:35:46] And if you look at Alonso, very clean.
[00:35:49] If you look at Hamilton, again, very clean.
[00:35:51] So there are the other sides as well.
[00:35:54] And maybe Lando Norris wants to be included in that, that if ever, should he ever win a championship?
[00:35:59] He and McLaren have taken this approach that we will make sure that we will win it the clean way.
[00:36:05] That's why McLaren are backing his good boy image on track as well.
[00:36:09] And I think, you know, when you take a step back, what are we trying to say via Formula One?
[00:36:18] Cars are great, can be economical, sustainable, really quick.
[00:36:24] There are people in the world who can drive cars extremely quick, on the edge, be precise.
[00:36:29] But we are also trying to say that you can race responsibly.
[00:36:33] You can drive responsibly, right?
[00:36:36] And if you want to do racing, you do it on the tracks, not on the streets, for example.
[00:36:42] Like I said, you take several steps back.
[00:36:44] But when you have a driver like Max driving the way he's doing, driving irresponsibly,
[00:36:51] that also sets a bad precedent or a bad example.
[00:36:55] Not just for future racers, but even for road car drivers, I would say.
[00:37:00] Because you're always, you know, somebody tries to overtake you, at least when I was growing up.
[00:37:04] You're like, you're trying to be Schumacher? Literally, you know.
[00:37:06] The next thing you know, could that be an extrapolation saying,
[00:37:10] are you trying to be Max by being so dirty with me even on the roads, for example?
[00:37:14] But anyway, yeah.
[00:37:15] Wait, wait. I need to bring something out here.
[00:37:17] Because I might be contradicting one of our sponsors or rather one of our partners for our on-ground events in Mumbai.
[00:37:25] Please close your eyes, Heineken.
[00:37:28] Isn't their tagline the most responsible driver or something like that?
[00:37:33] And the head of their campaign is Max.
[00:37:37] Because Heineken is Dutch, isn't it?
[00:37:41] Yes.
[00:37:43] Because I remember Max being on those ads saying drive responsibly.
[00:37:47] But then those ads shouldn't be played out nowadays.
[00:37:50] Unfortunately, I just...
[00:37:52] Heineken India is different.
[00:37:53] I'm pretty sure that won't compromise our business with them.
[00:37:56] No, but...
[00:37:57] No, but, you know, just extending on that point just a little bit more.
[00:38:01] Sure, if Max...
[00:38:03] If this is how Max wants to drive, sure, everyone has their own style.
[00:38:06] Do or die, sure.
[00:38:07] But I feel if Max is going to be losing the championship,
[00:38:11] it's going to be this driving style for now.
[00:38:13] No, it's fine if he finishes third or fourth.
[00:38:16] It's because otherwise it's very, very difficult for Norris to kind of
[00:38:20] get past that deficit that's there.
[00:38:23] If he continues to drive like this for the next four races,
[00:38:26] this could be the reason why he loses the championship.
[00:38:29] It's okay to say that I want to win every race,
[00:38:32] but you don't want to lose a championship,
[00:38:33] then go back saying that what if I'd not pull that move?
[00:38:35] What if I'd just, you know, driven a little bit more clean up?
[00:38:38] That's all I feel.
[00:38:39] Okay, let's talk about drivers who actually have a fight
[00:38:43] within themselves.
[00:38:44] And guys, I'd like to pull out this really interesting thing
[00:38:47] that I found out.
[00:38:48] In my opinion, Ferrari are going to be very competitive this time.
[00:38:53] Carlos Sainz said that it might be a bit tricky for them to get pole,
[00:38:57] but they are very good at the slow speed corners
[00:38:59] and are very good at managing the curbing.
[00:39:01] Two of the most important parts of a lap at Sao Paulo,
[00:39:05] slow speed corners and the curbs.
[00:39:08] Now, if Ferrari are going to be competitive,
[00:39:11] it raises a second question.
[00:39:13] Which one of the Ferrari drivers is going to get the job done?
[00:39:16] Normally, Carlos Sainz was very, very open to the media
[00:39:20] when he said that Leclerc is better at circuits
[00:39:23] where you have lots of stop-start corners
[00:39:25] because he's just better at making the car turn in,
[00:39:27] some marginal thing.
[00:39:28] A great piece of insight from him.
[00:39:31] And Leclerc says he's not very good at qualifying at circuits
[00:39:33] that have low grip surfaces.
[00:39:36] Brazil has just been resurfaced,
[00:39:37] so we're not sure about how that's going to work out.
[00:39:39] But interestingly, look at the record.
[00:39:43] In Brazil, let me just pull this up for all of you guys.
[00:39:47] In Brazil, I am surprised to see that Carlos Sainz
[00:39:51] has two podiums, one with McLaren, one with Ferrari.
[00:39:55] But Charles Leclerc has never stood on the podium here
[00:39:57] across all of his years.
[00:39:59] Because in 2019, he had a crash with Sebastian Vettel.
[00:40:03] 2018, he was with Sauvo, so it didn't really work out.
[00:40:05] Not the best race in 2022.
[00:40:07] And he did not start last year with a hydraulic issue.
[00:40:10] And he's never really been at the top of qualifying here as well.
[00:40:13] Which is a weird thing.
[00:40:15] So I'm not really sure where the tide is going to turn this time, Alkanal.
[00:40:18] Yeah, and interestingly,
[00:40:21] since we know it's a sprint race weekend as well,
[00:40:24] Brazil has had three sprints and three Grand Prix.
[00:40:27] So it's not just three races technically, if you were to look at it.
[00:40:33] Even in the sprints, he's never been in the top three as well.
[00:40:36] So I'd love to see Sainz and Leclerc battle
[00:40:39] because they've always had streaks.
[00:40:41] You know, I think Leclerc was out-qualifying Sainz
[00:40:46] five consecutive races.
[00:40:47] And then now Sainz has been out-qualifying him
[00:40:49] in the last couple of races.
[00:40:50] And we know Carlos Sainz wants to maximize all he can,
[00:40:56] you know, with the four races that he's got left with Ferrari.
[00:41:00] And Ferrari themselves never won a sprint ever
[00:41:04] in the history of 16 sprint races that we've had before as well.
[00:41:09] So lots to look forward to.
[00:41:11] The one thing I'm looking forward to, actually,
[00:41:13] is, of course, a constructors battle
[00:41:15] because Ferrari are 29 points away.
[00:41:17] And I think Red Bull and Mercedes
[00:41:20] have been battling for the constructors championship
[00:41:25] and winning it for the last 14 years.
[00:41:28] Like Sundaram said, it's the return of the old guard.
[00:41:31] For the first time,
[00:41:32] we are actually seeing Ferrari versus McLaren
[00:41:36] battling in a Formula One world championship.
[00:41:38] And I think, to me, that's beautiful.
[00:41:41] It hopefully brings, you know, older fans back.
[00:41:44] And when I say older, I mean not only in terms of age,
[00:41:46] but people who used to follow it back
[00:41:48] in the Hacken and Schumacher era as well.
[00:41:52] And memories as well.
[00:41:53] Because in 2007, 2008,
[00:41:55] Ferrari and McLaren have been bonkers
[00:41:57] battling at this particular circuit as well.
[00:42:01] And, you know, it's just that.
[00:42:04] And McLaren have, I think,
[00:42:05] the most number of wins out here in 12.
[00:42:07] So, interesting to see how they are going to settle in
[00:42:12] because they've had a quick car,
[00:42:14] but they've not maximized results again.
[00:42:17] And McLaren's last poll, 2012, with Lewis Hamilton.
[00:42:21] Their last win was 2012, I think, Jenson Button.
[00:42:25] Ferrari's last poll was 2008 with Massa.
[00:42:28] Their last win was in 2017 with Sebastian Vettel.
[00:42:33] So, to me, it just goes to show
[00:42:36] that it's going to be a Ferrari versus McLaren battle.
[00:42:38] And if it continues to be so,
[00:42:40] there's so much more at stake
[00:42:42] than just Leclerc Sainz versus Piastri Norris.
[00:42:45] Exactly.
[00:42:46] We're carrying on a legacy.
[00:42:48] And this is incredible to see
[00:42:50] because for the longest time,
[00:42:53] we all used to dream about the prospect
[00:42:55] of Ferrari versus McLaren yet again,
[00:42:58] them racing competitively.
[00:42:59] And at the start of 2024,
[00:43:01] I'm not sure any of us would have expected this to happen.
[00:43:04] But here we are.
[00:43:06] But guys, two more things that we need to discuss
[00:43:08] before we come to the end of this episode.
[00:43:11] And we are a long way away.
[00:43:12] Don't you worry, folks.
[00:43:13] I have to mention a couple of more things
[00:43:15] since we were talking about Ferrari poles at Brazil.
[00:43:21] The last Ferrari powered car to take pole
[00:43:24] in Interlagos
[00:43:27] was not Felipe Massa,
[00:43:30] but actually Kevin Magnuson.
[00:43:31] He's the last Ferrari powered driver
[00:43:33] to take pole around Interlagos 2022.
[00:43:36] Probably ending the end of his,
[00:43:39] probably nearing the end of his F1 career as well.
[00:43:42] But a beautiful, beautiful pole lap
[00:43:44] that he put together back in 2022.
[00:43:47] The other interesting thing is,
[00:43:50] go on.
[00:43:50] On this one second,
[00:43:51] is the next point going to be about Haas?
[00:43:53] Because if it isn't,
[00:43:54] I want to be finishing the loop here.
[00:43:57] It's not about Haas.
[00:43:58] I have two other things to mention.
[00:43:59] So first of all,
[00:44:00] maybe it's okay
[00:44:01] if Charles Leclerc does not take pole position
[00:44:04] in the sprint at least
[00:44:05] because the sprint pole sitter
[00:44:06] at Interlagos has never won.
[00:44:08] Three races, three sprints over here,
[00:44:11] the sprint pole sitter has never won.
[00:44:13] But it does help being on the front row
[00:44:15] during the Grand Prix at Interlagos
[00:44:17] because only twice in the last 15 years
[00:44:19] as a driver from behind the front row
[00:44:22] actually won a race,
[00:44:23] Kimi Raikkonen back in 2007.
[00:44:25] And then Lewis Hamilton in 2021.
[00:44:29] And if Ferrari does do well
[00:44:32] around this weekend,
[00:44:33] around this track this weekend,
[00:44:34] and if they do go on
[00:44:35] to lead the Constructors' Championship,
[00:44:37] for the very first time since 2010,
[00:44:39] we'll have three Constructors
[00:44:41] leading the Championship
[00:44:42] across various points of the season.
[00:44:45] 2010.
[00:44:47] Wow.
[00:44:48] 15 years,
[00:44:49] it's taken that long
[00:44:50] to have three Constructors
[00:44:53] actually fight for the lead
[00:44:54] of the Championship.
[00:44:55] That's how long we've had to wait.
[00:44:57] That's insane.
[00:44:59] That's insane.
[00:44:59] Since you spoke of Haas,
[00:45:01] Ferrari-powered Haas
[00:45:02] taking pole in Brazil,
[00:45:05] my mind actually goes back
[00:45:06] to the fact that
[00:45:08] Williams in 2010
[00:45:10] and...
[00:45:11] You read my mind.
[00:45:12] ...Bron GP in 2009
[00:45:17] actually have a pole,
[00:45:19] more recent pole
[00:45:20] in Inter Lagos
[00:45:21] than even Ferrari
[00:45:22] because Ferrari's goes back
[00:45:23] to 2008.
[00:45:25] So Williams and Nico Hulkenberg,
[00:45:26] in fact,
[00:45:26] both Haas drivers...
[00:45:27] Exactly.
[00:45:28] ...have a pole position.
[00:45:30] I think they're the only ones...
[00:45:31] Only team.
[00:45:32] Only team with both of the drivers
[00:45:34] to have pole position here.
[00:45:35] Yes.
[00:45:36] Indeed.
[00:45:37] Mega.
[00:45:37] This is why people need
[00:45:38] to be listening
[00:45:39] into the entire episode
[00:45:41] because our gems
[00:45:42] actually come out
[00:45:43] after 30 minutes of talking
[00:45:44] which is usually
[00:45:46] target time.
[00:45:47] And you know,
[00:45:48] it's interesting
[00:45:48] because we all came
[00:45:50] to the same point,
[00:45:52] just at different points
[00:45:53] of the light being
[00:45:54] switched on
[00:45:55] in each of our heads
[00:45:56] because the point
[00:45:57] I always wanted
[00:45:58] to interject with
[00:45:58] was this
[00:45:59] and then you brought it up
[00:46:00] to that lane
[00:46:01] and then Kunal was able
[00:46:02] to pick it up from there
[00:46:02] and ultimately
[00:46:03] we were all at
[00:46:03] the same place
[00:46:04] that yes,
[00:46:05] Haas are indeed
[00:46:06] the only team
[00:46:07] with both of their drivers
[00:46:08] having a pole position here
[00:46:10] and this is not prepped up.
[00:46:11] We prepped up
[00:46:12] a lot for this episode.
[00:46:14] This is one thing
[00:46:14] that all of us
[00:46:15] I think ignored
[00:46:16] and it's just come up
[00:46:17] in the spur of the moment.
[00:46:18] It's,
[00:46:19] yeah,
[00:46:20] this is why we love
[00:46:21] the longer recordings.
[00:46:22] Genuinely,
[00:46:23] it's so good.
[00:46:24] But okay,
[00:46:24] we need to get back
[00:46:25] to the things
[00:46:26] we need to finish.
[00:46:27] I have to act
[00:46:27] like the producer here,
[00:46:28] like the boss man.
[00:46:30] But there is
[00:46:31] an important point
[00:46:31] that we all
[00:46:32] would love to touch upon.
[00:46:33] I'll beat a bit briefly
[00:46:35] because we also need
[00:46:36] to go to the cost cap
[00:46:38] but I can send up.
[00:46:40] 30 years since his passing,
[00:46:42] we are going to have
[00:46:42] a tribute this weekend
[00:46:43] as well.
[00:46:44] McLaren are going to have
[00:46:45] the 1990 McLaren car
[00:46:48] being driven around
[00:46:48] by an unnamed driver
[00:46:52] at Interlagos.
[00:46:53] Not anymore?
[00:46:54] This one, yeah.
[00:46:55] It's not unnamed anymore.
[00:46:57] Is it not unnamed anymore?
[00:46:58] It's just been announced
[00:46:59] that Lewis Hamilton
[00:47:00] is going to be at the wheel.
[00:47:01] Oh,
[00:47:01] no way.
[00:47:03] No way.
[00:47:04] I think it's going to happen
[00:47:05] on the Saturday
[00:47:06] after the sprint
[00:47:08] and the qualifying session.
[00:47:10] 5 o'clock local time.
[00:47:12] Lewis Hamilton
[00:47:13] is actually going to
[00:47:13] drive a McLaren
[00:47:14] before he even
[00:47:15] drives a Ferrari.
[00:47:17] That's true.
[00:47:19] That's insane.
[00:47:21] What a sight
[00:47:22] that's going to be.
[00:47:24] Hamilton giving tribute
[00:47:25] to Senna,
[00:47:26] the new Senna
[00:47:27] if you'd like to put it
[00:47:28] that way
[00:47:28] in the eyes
[00:47:29] of all the Brazilians
[00:47:30] at a circuit
[00:47:31] where both of them
[00:47:32] have been incredible.
[00:47:33] I think
[00:47:33] if you really needed
[00:47:34] to have competition
[00:47:35] you could name
[00:47:36] the circuit
[00:47:38] Autodromo's
[00:47:38] Jose Carlos Pache
[00:47:39] or Autodromo Lewis Hamilton
[00:47:40] or Autodromo Ayrton Senna
[00:47:42] and it would not
[00:47:42] make a difference.
[00:47:44] I like how you say Pache
[00:47:46] and then you say Ayrton Senna.
[00:47:48] Come on, Samuel.
[00:47:49] Isn't it
[00:47:50] Ayrton?
[00:47:51] Okay.
[00:47:52] Ayrton.
[00:47:52] That's a delight.
[00:47:53] Ayrton Senna.
[00:47:54] It's not Nico Hulkenberg.
[00:47:57] It's not Valtteri Bottas.
[00:47:58] It's Valtteri Bottas.
[00:48:01] But there's some
[00:48:02] great tributes, right?
[00:48:03] Because Pirelli
[00:48:04] has yellow podium caps.
[00:48:06] Yes.
[00:48:06] And then Pirelli's
[00:48:09] pole position
[00:48:10] tire has also
[00:48:11] got a tribute
[00:48:12] which is a Senna tribute
[00:48:14] and I think
[00:48:15] this is beautiful
[00:48:15] and we're going
[00:48:17] to see the return
[00:48:18] of the yellow
[00:48:18] and green curbs
[00:48:20] as well.
[00:48:21] And in general,
[00:48:22] you know,
[00:48:22] everyone listening
[00:48:23] when you get
[00:48:24] the onboard
[00:48:26] lap of a driver
[00:48:27] on social media
[00:48:28] or on TV
[00:48:29] just watch it
[00:48:30] because
[00:48:31] it's a beautiful
[00:48:33] circuit.
[00:48:33] you know,
[00:48:34] the funny thing
[00:48:35] is the circuit
[00:48:36] is built
[00:48:36] on land
[00:48:37] that was
[00:48:39] uninhabitable
[00:48:39] for housing
[00:48:40] but
[00:48:41] the loss
[00:48:42] for the housing
[00:48:43] sector
[00:48:43] is such a big
[00:48:44] gain for
[00:48:45] the racing sector
[00:48:46] because
[00:48:47] what's not
[00:48:49] inhabitable
[00:48:50] for housing
[00:48:51] was actually
[00:48:52] beautiful
[00:48:52] for racing.
[00:48:53] So I'm glad
[00:48:54] we got this
[00:48:54] circuit
[00:48:55] and you know,
[00:48:55] there is this talk
[00:48:56] of Rio de Janeiro
[00:48:57] having
[00:48:57] a race
[00:48:59] and alternating
[00:49:00] between
[00:49:00] Interlagos
[00:49:01] or whatever
[00:49:02] but I just
[00:49:02] love the circuit
[00:49:03] for what it is
[00:49:04] because
[00:49:04] sector 1
[00:49:05] beautiful flow
[00:49:07] with all the corners
[00:49:09] sector 2
[00:49:09] tight and twisty
[00:49:10] sector 3
[00:49:11] again
[00:49:11] that massive
[00:49:12] long
[00:49:13] you know
[00:49:14] straight from
[00:49:14] the exit
[00:49:15] of turn 12
[00:49:16] and in general
[00:49:18] just a lot
[00:49:18] of history
[00:49:19] at pretty much
[00:49:20] every corner
[00:49:21] of the circuit
[00:49:22] every inch
[00:49:22] of the circuit
[00:49:23] whether it's
[00:49:23] resurfaced
[00:49:24] or not
[00:49:24] just has
[00:49:26] so much
[00:49:27] history to it
[00:49:28] and my
[00:49:29] favorite
[00:49:29] circuit fact
[00:49:30] is that
[00:49:31] from turn 10
[00:49:33] to turn 6
[00:49:34] which is 3.5
[00:49:35] kilometers
[00:49:35] of the 4.3
[00:49:36] kilometer circuit
[00:49:37] the front left
[00:49:38] actually just
[00:49:39] goes to sleep
[00:49:40] because it's not
[00:49:40] really working
[00:49:41] too hard
[00:49:42] and that is
[00:49:43] one of the
[00:49:44] key engineering
[00:49:45] challenges
[00:49:45] since Formula 1
[00:49:46] is actually
[00:49:47] an engineering
[00:49:47] sport
[00:49:48] that's one of
[00:49:49] the key
[00:49:50] engineering
[00:49:50] challenges
[00:49:50] for every
[00:49:51] team
[00:49:52] and driver
[00:49:53] for their car
[00:49:54] yeah
[00:49:54] and not very
[00:49:55] heartbreaking
[00:49:56] also
[00:49:57] track evolution
[00:49:58] is going to
[00:49:58] be big
[00:49:59] which means
[00:49:59] that your
[00:50:00] tyre warm-ups
[00:50:01] are going
[00:50:01] to be vital
[00:50:02] and the way
[00:50:03] you pull out
[00:50:03] the final lap
[00:50:04] in qualifying
[00:50:04] is going
[00:50:05] to be key
[00:50:05] and if
[00:50:06] god forbid
[00:50:07] there's a
[00:50:07] yellow flag
[00:50:08] yeah
[00:50:09] that's gonna
[00:50:09] mess things up
[00:50:10] quite a lot
[00:50:11] but speaking
[00:50:12] of caps
[00:50:12] speaking of
[00:50:13] Pirelli caps
[00:50:14] we also need
[00:50:14] to talk about
[00:50:15] another cap
[00:50:16] a cap
[00:50:17] that has been
[00:50:18] thrown away
[00:50:19] slightly
[00:50:19] or has not
[00:50:20] been worn
[00:50:21] properly
[00:50:21] if that's the
[00:50:22] right way to
[00:50:22] put it
[00:50:22] it's the
[00:50:23] cost cap
[00:50:24] that we're
[00:50:24] talking about
[00:50:25] and no
[00:50:26] there is
[00:50:26] not going
[00:50:26] to be
[00:50:27] any mention
[00:50:27] of catering
[00:50:28] is a
[00:50:29] procedural
[00:50:29] breach
[00:50:30] and two
[00:50:31] teams
[00:50:32] in fact
[00:50:32] two
[00:50:32] constructors
[00:50:33] two
[00:50:33] engine
[00:50:34] manufacturers
[00:50:34] have been
[00:50:35] fined
[00:50:35] $600,000
[00:50:37] and $400,000
[00:50:38] respectively
[00:50:39] take a guess
[00:50:40] the $600,000
[00:50:41] fine went
[00:50:42] to Honda
[00:50:43] and the
[00:50:44] $400,000
[00:50:44] fine went
[00:50:45] to Alpine
[00:50:47] so
[00:50:47] yeah
[00:50:48] we couldn't
[00:50:48] make jokes
[00:50:49] about Alpine
[00:50:49] messing things
[00:50:50] up yet again
[00:50:50] but Honda
[00:50:51] has joined
[00:50:51] them in the
[00:50:52] party this time
[00:50:52] so they're
[00:50:53] not alone
[00:50:53] but in
[00:50:54] terms of
[00:50:54] the breach
[00:50:55] canal
[00:50:55] the procedural
[00:50:56] breach
[00:50:57] if I read
[00:50:57] it correctly
[00:50:58] this comes
[00:50:59] down to
[00:51:00] declaring
[00:51:01] slash not
[00:51:02] declaring
[00:51:02] the right
[00:51:02] expenses
[00:51:04] in the
[00:51:04] budget that
[00:51:05] you have
[00:51:05] to submit
[00:51:05] to the
[00:51:06] FIA
[00:51:06] right
[00:51:06] this is
[00:51:07] not
[00:51:07] any case
[00:51:08] of them
[00:51:08] overspending
[00:51:09] the budget
[00:51:09] that they
[00:51:10] have
[00:51:10] or not
[00:51:11] trying to
[00:51:11] cheat to
[00:51:12] gain any
[00:51:12] performance
[00:51:12] advantage
[00:51:13] also
[00:51:13] at least
[00:51:13] that's
[00:51:14] what the
[00:51:15] FIA
[00:51:15] and the
[00:51:16] whole process
[00:51:17] would like
[00:51:17] us to
[00:51:18] believe
[00:51:18] and I
[00:51:19] would
[00:51:19] believe
[00:51:19] that
[00:51:19] because
[00:51:21] F1
[00:51:22] being an
[00:51:22] engineering
[00:51:23] sport
[00:51:23] with 10
[00:51:24] different
[00:51:24] teams
[00:51:25] four
[00:51:25] different
[00:51:25] power
[00:51:26] unit
[00:51:26] manufacturers
[00:51:26] having
[00:51:27] their own
[00:51:27] setups
[00:51:28] and
[00:51:28] structures
[00:51:29] it's
[00:51:30] difficult
[00:51:30] to
[00:51:31] put
[00:51:31] everybody
[00:51:31] within
[00:51:32] a simple
[00:51:33] excel sheet
[00:51:34] and say
[00:51:34] what did
[00:51:34] you spend
[00:51:35] there
[00:51:35] what did
[00:51:35] you spend
[00:51:35] there
[00:51:36] so
[00:51:37] procedural
[00:51:37] breach
[00:51:38] literally
[00:51:39] means
[00:51:39] that
[00:51:39] there was
[00:51:40] an
[00:51:41] accounting
[00:51:41] error
[00:51:42] and how
[00:51:43] the process
[00:51:44] of that
[00:51:44] accounting
[00:51:44] was followed
[00:51:45] it was
[00:51:46] outside of
[00:51:47] the financial
[00:51:47] regulations
[00:51:48] for the
[00:51:48] power
[00:51:49] unit
[00:51:49] manufacturers
[00:51:49] because
[00:51:50] the team
[00:51:51] started to
[00:51:51] have
[00:51:52] financial
[00:51:53] regulations
[00:51:53] since
[00:51:53] 2021
[00:51:54] the
[00:51:55] power
[00:51:55] unit
[00:51:55] manufacturers
[00:51:56] were
[00:51:56] introduced
[00:51:58] for them
[00:51:59] a couple
[00:51:59] of years
[00:51:59] in fact
[00:52:00] this is
[00:52:00] the first
[00:52:00] year
[00:52:00] I think
[00:52:01] so it's
[00:52:02] just one
[00:52:02] of those
[00:52:03] and when
[00:52:16] I say
[00:52:17] way of
[00:52:18] filing
[00:52:19] their
[00:52:19] accounts
[00:52:20] to the
[00:52:21] FIA
[00:52:22] within
[00:52:22] the
[00:52:22] financial
[00:52:23] regulations
[00:52:24] and of
[00:52:25] course
[00:52:25] yet
[00:52:26] another
[00:52:27] controversy
[00:52:28] given that
[00:52:29] Red Bull
[00:52:29] Racing
[00:52:30] are powered
[00:52:30] by Honda
[00:52:31] Max
[00:52:31] Rishnappen
[00:52:32] has won
[00:52:32] all his
[00:52:32] titles
[00:52:33] there
[00:52:33] so that
[00:52:36] does it
[00:52:36] taint
[00:52:37] his title
[00:52:37] no I
[00:52:38] don't
[00:52:38] think so
[00:52:38] in the
[00:52:39] long run
[00:52:39] we are
[00:52:39] never
[00:52:40] going to
[00:52:40] remember
[00:52:40] it
[00:52:40] but it
[00:52:41] just goes
[00:52:42] to show
[00:52:42] how complex
[00:52:43] Formula
[00:52:43] One
[00:52:44] is
[00:52:44] and even
[00:52:44] though
[00:52:45] it is
[00:52:45] so
[00:52:45] complex
[00:52:45] the FIA
[00:52:46] are
[00:52:46] actually
[00:52:47] on top
[00:52:48] of their
[00:52:49] game
[00:52:49] in a
[00:52:50] lot
[00:52:50] of
[00:52:51] areas
[00:52:51] even if
[00:52:52] it is
[00:52:52] not for
[00:52:53] adjudicating
[00:52:54] wheel-to-wheel
[00:52:54] racing
[00:52:55] consistently
[00:52:56] and I
[00:52:57] think I
[00:52:58] have a
[00:52:58] genuine
[00:52:58] question
[00:52:59] on this
[00:52:59] because
[00:52:59] this
[00:53:00] penalty
[00:53:01] is for
[00:53:01] the
[00:53:02] engine
[00:53:02] manufacturers
[00:53:03] but why
[00:53:03] does it
[00:53:04] say
[00:53:04] Alpine
[00:53:05] and not
[00:53:05] Renault
[00:53:05] that's
[00:53:06] a
[00:53:07] very
[00:53:08] valid
[00:53:08] point
[00:53:09] I
[00:53:10] didn't
[00:53:11] understand
[00:53:11] the
[00:53:17] 26
[00:53:17] regulations
[00:53:18] but
[00:53:19] then
[00:53:19] there's
[00:53:19] also
[00:53:19] made
[00:53:20] references
[00:53:20] of
[00:53:20] what
[00:53:21] they
[00:53:21] were
[00:53:21] submitting
[00:53:21] for
[00:53:22] 2023
[00:53:22] so
[00:53:23] I
[00:53:23] have
[00:53:23] probably
[00:53:23] not
[00:53:23] completely
[00:53:24] understood
[00:53:24] it
[00:53:24] but
[00:53:25] I'm still
[00:53:26] wondering
[00:53:26] why does
[00:53:27] it say
[00:53:27] Alpine
[00:53:28] considering
[00:53:28] we're
[00:53:28] speaking
[00:53:28] about
[00:53:29] engine
[00:53:29] manufacturers
[00:53:31] I
[00:53:32] will dig
[00:53:32] that out
[00:53:33] and I
[00:53:33] will
[00:53:34] come back
[00:53:35] it says
[00:53:35] Alpine
[00:53:36] racing
[00:53:36] SAS
[00:53:37] okay
[00:53:38] so I
[00:53:38] wonder
[00:53:38] if
[00:53:38] that's
[00:53:39] the
[00:53:41] that's
[00:53:41] it
[00:53:42] let me
[00:53:43] let me
[00:53:43] dig that
[00:53:43] out
[00:53:43] and I
[00:53:44] can
[00:53:44] address
[00:53:44] it
[00:53:45] the next
[00:53:45] time
[00:53:45] we
[00:53:46] possibly
[00:53:47] speak
[00:53:47] because
[00:53:48] it
[00:53:48] says
[00:53:49] it
[00:53:50] says
[00:53:51] 2026
[00:53:51] but
[00:53:51] then
[00:53:52] Renault
[00:53:52] is not
[00:53:52] there
[00:53:53] in
[00:53:53] Formula
[00:53:53] 1
[00:53:53] in
[00:53:54] 2026
[00:53:54] so
[00:53:55] and
[00:53:56] then
[00:53:56] it
[00:53:56] obviously
[00:53:56] means
[00:53:57] that
[00:53:57] it's
[00:53:57] papers
[00:53:58] that
[00:53:58] were
[00:53:58] submitted
[00:53:58] or
[00:53:59] documents
[00:53:59] submitted
[00:53:59] for
[00:54:00] the
[00:54:00] 2023
[00:54:00] season
[00:54:02] where
[00:54:03] they
[00:54:03] probably
[00:54:03] delayed
[00:54:03] certain
[00:54:04] things
[00:54:04] or
[00:54:04] left
[00:54:04] out
[00:54:04] a
[00:54:05] couple
[00:54:05] of
[00:54:05] things
[00:54:05] but
[00:54:05] yeah
[00:54:05] interesting
[00:54:06] nonetheless
[00:54:06] but
[00:54:07] yeah
[00:54:07] worth
[00:54:07] finding
[00:54:08] out
[00:54:08] yes
[00:54:09] on it
[00:54:09] and
[00:54:10] with
[00:54:10] that
[00:54:11] folks
[00:54:11] we
[00:54:11] have
[00:54:11] a point
[00:54:12] to cover
[00:54:13] for our
[00:54:13] next episode
[00:54:14] and by
[00:54:14] the way
[00:54:14] we would
[00:54:15] love to
[00:54:15] hear from
[00:54:16] you about
[00:54:16] this episode
[00:54:17] what you
[00:54:17] thought
[00:54:18] what are
[00:54:19] your observations
[00:54:19] what are
[00:54:20] your bold
[00:54:20] predictions
[00:54:21] and I'm
[00:54:22] not
[00:54:22] going to
[00:54:22] let
[00:54:22] you lose
[00:54:23] on this
[00:54:23] we really
[00:54:24] want
[00:54:24] to know
[00:54:24] and there's
[00:54:25] also
[00:54:25] going to
[00:54:25] be a
[00:54:26] video
[00:54:26] out
[00:54:26] on
[00:54:26] Instagram
[00:54:26] with
[00:54:27] those
[00:54:27] predictions
[00:54:27] and we'd
[00:54:28] love for
[00:54:28] you to
[00:54:28] engage
[00:54:29] with that
[00:54:29] as you
[00:54:30] do with
[00:54:30] all of
[00:54:31] our
[00:54:31] content
[00:54:31] regularly
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[00:54:32] but
[00:54:32] follow us
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[00:54:37] at
[00:54:37] inside
[00:54:38] line
[00:54:38] F1
[00:54:39] pod
[00:54:39] and
[00:54:39] Sundaram
[00:54:40] you have
[00:54:40] a closing
[00:54:41] note
[00:54:41] I have
[00:54:42] a closing
[00:54:42] stat
[00:54:42] now I
[00:54:43] want the
[00:54:43] both of
[00:54:44] you
[00:54:44] to
[00:54:44] remember
[00:54:45] all the
[00:54:45] races
[00:54:46] that we've
[00:54:46] had in
[00:54:46] America
[00:54:47] and who
[00:54:48] the race
[00:54:48] winner was
[00:54:49] Lando Norris
[00:54:50] Miami
[00:54:52] Austin
[00:54:53] was
[00:54:54] Charlotte
[00:54:54] Leclerc
[00:54:55] and Las Vegas
[00:54:56] is going to
[00:54:57] be Charlotte
[00:54:57] Leclerc
[00:54:57] no no no
[00:54:58] in the
[00:54:59] Americas
[00:55:01] Mexico
[00:55:01] was Carlos
[00:55:02] Sainz
[00:55:03] who's going
[00:55:03] to be in
[00:55:03] Brazil
[00:55:04] Canada
[00:55:05] was Max
[00:55:06] Verstappen
[00:55:06] so all
[00:55:07] the races
[00:55:08] in the
[00:55:08] Americas
[00:55:08] have had
[00:55:09] a different
[00:55:09] race
[00:55:11] going to
[00:55:11] be in
[00:55:11] Brazil
[00:55:12] you bring
[00:55:13] that out
[00:55:13] so late
[00:55:14] dude
[00:55:16] this is
[00:55:17] meant to
[00:55:17] be like
[00:55:18] a minute
[00:55:18] two
[00:55:18] stat
[00:55:19] this is
[00:55:20] a good
[00:55:21] one
[00:55:21] I just
[00:55:22] saw it
[00:55:22] in my
[00:55:23] document
[00:55:24] right now
[00:55:24] I just
[00:55:24] realized
[00:55:25] I should
[00:55:25] bring this
[00:55:26] up
[00:55:26] which means
[00:55:27] yes
[00:55:28] Kunal's
[00:55:29] prediction
[00:55:29] could come
[00:55:29] true
[00:55:30] if we have
[00:55:30] to go
[00:55:30] by this
[00:55:31] trend
[00:55:31] we might
[00:55:31] see an
[00:55:31] Oscar
[00:55:32] Piastri
[00:55:32] win this
[00:55:32] one
[00:55:33] or
[00:55:34] Fernando
[00:55:34] Alonso
[00:55:35] who knows
[00:55:36] I just
[00:55:37] hope he
[00:55:38] sits in
[00:55:38] that race
[00:55:39] car
[00:55:39] and races
[00:55:39] okay
[00:55:40] because
[00:55:40] you know
[00:55:40] he's not
[00:55:41] been well
[00:55:42] and hopefully
[00:55:44] some Mexican
[00:55:45] food that
[00:55:46] probably caught
[00:55:46] him out
[00:55:46] or anyway
[00:55:47] I'm just
[00:55:48] joking
[00:55:48] but
[00:55:48] it's
[00:55:48] happened
[00:55:49] to Nigel
[00:55:49] Mansell
[00:55:49] so it
[00:55:50] can happen
[00:55:50] to Fernando
[00:55:50] it's
[00:55:51] just a
[00:55:52] world champion
[00:55:52] thing
[00:55:55] but we
[00:55:56] shall see
[00:55:56] but thank
[00:55:56] you for
[00:55:57] listening
[00:55:57] and thank
[00:55:57] you for
[00:55:58] watching
[00:55:58] guys
[00:55:58] we will
[00:55:59] be back
[00:55:59] with you
[00:56:00] on Monday
[00:56:01] where we
[00:56:01] have the
[00:56:02] Brazilian
[00:56:02] GP race
[00:56:03] review
[00:56:03] bye
[00:56:03] bye
[00:56:04] bye