Fixed: Why Does Racism Still Exist?

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[00:00:41] Genon tonic style. Oh, absolutely. Let me tell you I got two regular pimento olives in my joint And I also have two jalapeno Olives in there. I mixed it up a little bit and the reason I did that is because oh

[00:00:56] I put a little bit of the olive juice in there as well It's not like a dirty martini, but I just kind of like that flavor the reason why We haven't been able to like sit in a while. It's been like crazy times

[00:01:08] We've been on the move and and all of that But that is actually a very good start to our session or this episode So I had a question for you You're out of the country Do you drive do you drive or do you like?

[00:01:29] Take taxi motor scooters. What are you doing? I do I do drive. Yes, okay? I did hit a car So why did you hit the car is it because your bearings were off because you were on the different side of the street what was going on because I

[00:01:50] Don't pay attention No I literally backed into a delivery car and I was low frazzled and I was crying after I did it and the man was like Are you fine? I'm like, yeah, he's like I'm fine. So it's fine

[00:02:02] And he didn't even make me give his insurance information or anything So do they do they do insurance the way that we do it over here same sort of way I think so but everybody just sort of bangs into each other shit and no one cares

[00:02:17] You think so because again, he didn't ask for it You didn't necessarily have to offer it up you will wipe in the crocodile tears away I get it so so so here's what here's where we are

[00:02:29] We don't want you to run into another vehicle to try to find out. That's a question that we can let linger Unanswered, you know how you can you know, I always tell people Julie that there are four ways to handle an objection in the sales process

[00:02:45] WNLB and the N is never so that's one of those questions that you never have to address How the insurance process works over in Portugal so my question and the reason why I asked you around driving Would you ever drive around

[00:03:04] With one of those digital signs on the roof of your vehicle Very similar to like a taxi in New York City would have or in major cities Would you ever on your personal vehicle?

[00:03:20] Put one of those signs on the top of your roof and plug it into your lighter or your battery so that it advertised whomever Well, one does it pay well? to Is is it like what I'm used to seeing which is like strip clubs and

[00:03:39] Brothels and those kind of things like they see like I'm thinking like Vegas vacation kind of sign You see strip clubs and brothels in Indiana no like in Vegas or I was gonna say I was like trying to get a new zip code So would you do it?

[00:04:00] Because I know the question for me is or the response for me is I absolutely would not so yeah, I mean I think pretty unlikely and And also what would make you ask me this question? I have to know

[00:04:15] Well, I gotta tell you so we were talking about drinks and I'm I'm riding around and all of a sudden um I'm looking at vehicles on my left and my right here in Baltimore

[00:04:26] And I'm seeing all of these vehicles with these signs on the top and it was reminiscent of when lift Came to Baltimore City. I don't know what lift did when they came to your city But they had a big launch party

[00:04:41] You saw all of these people riding around with what looked like eyebrows on the front of their vehicles You had no idea who they were looked like a mustache or eyebrows You had no idea Who these individuals were you just got the secret invite? I got one

[00:04:58] Secret invite to this large party. So I'm looking left and right in the last Week or so I've seen like a number of vehicles even more with these signs on top of there I said something is happening

[00:05:12] turn on the tv at 4 30 in the morning listening to the news and I see a barrage of gambling commercials jayme fox And all kinds of other stars So we now have sports betting coming to Maryland My only reason for bringing this up is um Why

[00:05:39] Why can't I get one of them jobs? Why can't I be the jayme fox walking in a puddle of fake water like green screen water?

[00:05:48] And telling people to pick up their iphone and go to i'm not going to name any of the the sports betting sites because they're not sponsors But why could why how much do they pay him?

[00:05:58] and how much are they paying these people to ride around with these these signs on top of Their vehicles and I guess that must be the question that you raise Yeah, it must pay well. It must pay well Either that or other jobs don't pay well enough

[00:06:16] How about it could be both? There you go both. I think it actually might be both It might be that other jobs may not be paying well enough And I think the betting industry is so strong and they feel like they're going to make so much money

[00:06:32] here in Maryland That it's worth it speaking of so much money. Did you see I was in palm springs? Last week and somebody won the uh power ball Oh, they did They had a ticket in la

[00:06:51] Two hours away from me the only thing I could say when I woke up Wednesday morning. I heard the news was like That really could have been me like our originally was flying into la our originally was going to fly a really

[00:07:06] Why not me? But I don't know anyway. It's a whole lot of money talking this let's get down to the business racism is global Does that surprise you in any way? No Unfortunately, I mean we live in in a world of of colonists. So no it doesn't

[00:07:26] It doesn't Yep. So there was some leaked audio over in Queensland that would be Queensland, australia for our listeners. Um, and this was the police um police staff using uh racial epitats in conversations joking about violence to black people And to protesters

[00:07:50] Question for you. Um, we don't have to go into the story. You guys can find it over on the guardian It's from uh saturday november 12th You know, I just wonder uh, why is it that we don't have more organizations? Developing zero tolerance policies Like making it

[00:08:11] So much a part of their organization That it is Prominently pronounced on the website. Maybe not the home page But on the careers page that it is prominently shared um in any correspondence between hr recruiting Um and candidate at the time

[00:08:34] That it is prominently displayed uh in onboarding materials like zero tolerance policy period Why haven't we gotten to that stage? You know I think that's a really fucking great question and if I just put my like my employer brand hat on

[00:08:54] It's probably like a really good employer brand activity to do Right, so if you really want to create that culture because I think like I've read this Queensland article and it is fucking Garbage, right? I mean this the shit that these people say Is breathtakingly

[00:09:14] Gross and disgusting. Let me just say that. Um And clearly it's a culture that has permeated and created an allowable disease defester So why not just put it out there and be like, hey, we don't we don't we don't tolerate this shit

[00:09:31] I like to think that some organizations would like to think that they do But like to actually put it out there like that and be a part of your employer brand. I think would be really attractive

[00:09:42] I just I sat there and I read and I asked myself like There is something more that we can do and I'm not I'm not naive enough to believe Jay that in doing these things we won't have nooses being found like the one found at the uh

[00:10:03] President Obama's construction site for his library, which also is a current story I'm not suggesting or naive enough to think that if we are explicit Just I mean direct if we are pronounced That we will

[00:10:20] prevent or erase these all of these things from happening. But but what I am saying is that I just I just I struggle with I struggle with how we are tiptoeing even still in 2023 We are still tiptoeing with coddling and making people that are toxic and racist comfortable

[00:10:48] We are still finding ways to put them in time out, you know Put them in time out rather than Snatch that ass up, you know, my mom didn't play when we was in the store If my mom says stay next to me she meant stay next to me

[00:11:05] If my mom said don't touch anything she absolutely meant Don't touch anything And there's some history around that we won't get into it in this podcast But I knew to follow my mother because I knew that

[00:11:18] Testing her was a bad idea on my part and I don't understand why we feel Like as employers we just can't we can't draw the line because Draw the line hold people accountable and we'll find somebody to replace you if That need arises, you know

[00:11:38] Yeah, I mean, you know So the way that we treat our employees in an everyday manner, right as disposable is You know discardable all of those things But when they do the most egregious things

[00:11:53] It's like then we make an excuse for them. And so I think that's just like a really good point and I I want to talk more about the obama library thing But let's we'll get it get it on the other side of the break cool

[00:12:04] And then this next article, uh, actually a coaching client sent it to me This is when you know that your coaching is working One thing that I always say to My clients j. You know, they'll say well, what torrent

[00:12:18] How do we know that the consulting that you're going to give us it works? Or how do we know that the coaching that you provide is going to work? How do we even know that the

[00:12:28] Presentation you give even though that's a little disconnected and harder. How do we know it's going to work? I say employee engagement Higher productivity and reduced attrition or positive attrition. Those are the four things that I say

[00:12:41] Coaching clients sent this to me and it's a new jersey town renames its parkway To honor veterans and erase a reminder of a racist past This is coming from the philadelphia inquirer

[00:12:54] And let me tell you j I was so first of all, I was happy about the town Making this progressive step forward, you know, I'm trying You try not to laud them with all of this

[00:13:06] You know accolade and confetti and celebratory language when it's something that they should have done a long time ago But you also have to balance that with but you did the right thing and we appreciate you doing the right thing

[00:13:18] Happy when he sent it to me because it says what we did in our sessions are Resonating with him and he's more empathetic and intentional and in tune with things that are happening around him And seeing how they connect to d and i

[00:13:35] So and let's I mean, let's take a minute to talk about the story. It's over at the philadelphia inquirer. I thought it was just It made me smile, right? We talked about the first things just blah and then we get to this story and so basically this township

[00:13:51] Renamed their parkway from levitt parkway to veterans parkway To obviously honor our veterans and thank you for your service And rebuking a piece of institutional racism. So the developer of the town

[00:14:07] Was named william j levitt. He built and founded communities in that area and then named them after himself But his whole gig was basically we're gonna build houses and communities and this was the third one that he had built Where there would be no black people

[00:14:28] And that they're actually Would not allow anyone who was not white to buy property in those communities He actually was sued by a soldier serving at fort dicks When he was refused a home And the supreme court said yeah, dude, you can't do that

[00:14:49] And you had to start integration And so now right? We get rid of that that history But it's important to know that history because I don't think a lot of us Do know it in terms of like a real physical place we can think of

[00:15:04] And now more than how many every years later 70 percent of this town Is black And very integrated and that is the legacy that we get to take home

[00:15:17] That is the legacy that we get to take home and for those of you listening if you are unaware of what julie is referring to One really quick and easy phrase that you can google is levitt town levit t tow In levitt town

[00:15:37] And I want to say i'm going to go out on the limb I may have this wrong and so if you're a listener and i am wrong Feel free to correct me on social or send me a message, but I believe

[00:15:48] Part of the structure that you talk about julie uh with mr. Levitt and how he set up this town. I believe it was foundational instrumental In being replicated in cities across the country In how they set up their redlining and they did what they did to exclude

[00:16:09] Black families and others from moving into two neighborhoods. I believe it was the blueprint I'm almost certain of that Yeah, I believe it was a blueprint

[00:16:21] But what I will say to listeners and julie is right this really is a positive story what you don't read in the story And julie correct me if i'm wrong what you don't read in the story Is that the town has Gone down

[00:16:37] You know it it lost value Um, it's run down. It's dirty. You don't read any of those things in the story It's still a thriving place and so

[00:16:49] Another resource that I think you all can look at is one that I refer to often one of my favorite books The color of law by richard roth stein It was until I read that book That I really understood it crystallized for me

[00:17:06] The power of the levit town and its impact and supporting of institutional And systemic racism up and down the east coast and beyond the color of law by richard roth stein great story

[00:17:22] Shout out to you coaching client. I'm not going to say your name, but you know, I absolutely appreciate you for Dropping this in my inbox Yeah, and finally before we head to in a flash. So we have another really good story. So it's Movember which is

[00:17:39] Where men always grow the mustaches and I hate it because I hate a mustache. Love a good full goatee beard. Yes mustache. No um where we celebrate and focus on men's health and hr great vine has a fantastic article about how Men are starting to use workplace counseling

[00:17:58] services, which is a phenomenal shift like a seismic shift In our society that men are starting to use services and recognize that their head needs to get right Think about that jade think about that like before the pandemic What did we have? We had me too? remember and

[00:18:23] And one of the one of the what do you call it casualties? Of of me too was that men particularly those that are in leadership positions were saying nope I'm not taking the trip with julie. I'm not going to that conference with julie. I'm I'm

[00:18:42] Whatever i'm not going to lunch with julie so instead of facing Solutions and ways of being collegial and collaborative with their people they ran for the hills they ran for the exidor Putting a cast over all women as if women were the problem

[00:19:03] And I so appreciated when I saw this article like great Let's double down on men saying I can be a part of the solution and that my Submitting myself to this type of therapy counseling support

[00:19:19] It's not a bad thing. So I love this article as well. Yeah, no absolutely worth a read and To know as a man if you need help ask for help and it's okay to do so Yeah, and real quick as julie said just in case

[00:19:34] It's over on hr grapevine and the title of the article is rise in men Using workplace counseling. Here's why that's good. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back

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[00:21:55] All right, so Gotta just ask Does does does Range Rover make an EV? And would you drive an EV if it came in like a Range Rover like invoke sport kind of model? um So a couple things, um First of all, uh

[00:22:15] Yes, they have an electric version. It is not fully on the market I would absolutely drive it um I'm smiling now because I don't want to I don't want to sound let me just say yes. Let me let me let me keep it clean

[00:22:45] Let me keep it clean. Let me just say, uh, I love my vehicle. Um Yes, I would absolutely drive it. You know, I'm smiling in part because they actually, um They had actually uh advertised the 2023 models But they couldn't deliver So it's like

[00:23:08] I don't have any idea where they are right now. Like I don't know if the 2020 Well, I'm sorry. They actually advertised the 2022 models and couldn't deliver them because of the pandemic

[00:23:20] So I don't know if the 2023s are really 2022 is coming off the assembly line and they never I don't know where they are at this particular point So I will tell you I'm trying to give them a little bit of time

[00:23:33] Before I go and make an investment because I don't really like to be the first one with anything That that's not what I try to do So I want to see if I can get somebody else to get some of the kinks out. So anyway, that's that so

[00:23:47] The uh the clean beauty is ugly side. So tomorrow I'm about to go get my face done get my Botox all fixed up I'm not all about the clean beauty industry but The clean beauty industry is expected to grow to 10 billion dollars annually by 2026 yet

[00:24:09] product options for black women are few and far between And about 75 of the products marketed to black women contain chemicals That interfere with normal hormone function from blueberg So, um I think it's important to you know, put that out there because you know, it leads me to

[00:24:36] Um, it leads us if you will in this episode and in many episodes It leads us to the discussion of of of how much further We have to go in terms of inclusion like julie if you really think about

[00:24:52] If you think about progress that has been made for so many groups Much of that progress is rooted Or has been demonstrated in the last 25 Maybe 50 years There are some things that 55 60 70 years ago, but for the most part If it is a sizable recognizable amount of progress

[00:25:20] For many groups and communities or communities in groups. It has happened in the last 50 years and there's so much that we take for granted for instance this clean beauty um Product side now. I didn't know that there was this push in the beauty industry to create cleaner

[00:25:41] More health conscious products. I had no idea so it just reminds me that there's always room For someone to innovate to create to show up and make better or make something Um more accessible for more people

[00:25:58] There's also room for us to be better about humanity and as we illustrated in the top of the show The news being found at president obama's library Work site in chicago The story about queenslyn police being racist calling some folks gorillas talking about

[00:26:21] Uh indigenous women giving blowjobs to other police officers. I mean just all kinds of crude Rude stuff as we talked about those stories and others Why is racism so prevalent? So before I answer this question Let me also Say

[00:26:47] Is it okay or let me ask is it okay to celebrate how far we've come In the last 50 years like are we sometimes like getting Do we forget to be joyful at the progress that we've made? In the focus of getting it better, which we should do

[00:27:07] Don't I don't mean it that way But I was listening to a radio show the other day and they're like if we looked at the progressive movement over the past 50 years Which would include a civil rights movement like the world has changed dramatically for the for the better

[00:27:24] Most would say right And the challenge of the the person who's talking is like why don't we celebrate that? Instead we focus on sort of the continuance of the work. Are we missing something that would maybe like

[00:27:39] Draw more people into us if we took the time to celebrate those minutes and then I want to answer the question So I would respond in In in in a way of we should be doing both As I attempted to do in the philadelphia story

[00:27:55] I don't believe that we should not celebrate Movements progress accomplishment I don't believe that we should not celebrate a positive effort towards changing representation Remember when they were doing the diversity reports large tech companies and others

[00:28:15] People were frowning because the numbers said three percent representation in one year And then four percent representation the next year and you know part of my Forcefulness in the space was you can't expect that number to go from three to ten

[00:28:35] That's just unrealistic if you're not going to do these things right here Um, and so I think for me julie it really is I think it's I think it's important that we Not only highlight That the world is different

[00:28:53] You know we hit eight billion people on the planet this week We should absolutely celebrate and highlight that but we should never be afraid of calling out Where Um correction or opportunity exists

[00:29:12] Fair enough. Um, I I've been thinking about that all weekend and been waiting to to have a chat with you about it And you didn't know but you set me up perfectly for it. So Why does racism exist? I mean like

[00:29:25] It's it's a freaking question. I think of the ages, right, but If we start at the basics Systems are so racist, right and so Sometimes and this is like I will attend this to climate change and this is maybe not a really good example

[00:29:45] But I'm going to try it and we'll see if anyone gets mad at me It's like I recycle And I do all of my things to make sure that I take shorter showers and I do all this and do all that right

[00:29:57] But fundamentally it is our systems that have to change For us to save the planet and so I think like I have a lot of of other kind of thoughts But at the base of it, right

[00:30:11] Is until we stop putting the onus on julie to do the recycling And start requiring the systems and the and the pillars of power And money to make change. We're not going to save the planet. Is it the same with racism?

[00:30:30] Continue when you say is it the same, you know While we are we saying is it the same related to the system? Is it the same related to the number of people and how they operate in the system?

[00:30:43] What are you what are you sort of asking at the end of that because I get the recycling piece I absolutely get it, you know and we got even more work to do on that like

[00:30:53] When I learned that we were taking our recycling and sending it to china. I was like, how does that make sense? But go ahead. That's all another conversation That's a whole other episode. So the point being is that like I

[00:31:07] Feel like I do a pretty good job. I feel like I am proactive anti-racist Doing my part which is important, right? I need to always do my part but At some point we have to say

[00:31:24] It can't be an individual change. It has to be a systemic change and the power structures in place Have to own and accept that these basic systems have to change in order for us to actually get past fundamental racism So then I think the answer is a yes

[00:31:48] And I'm pausing because I'm smiling. I'm actually looking At an Oxford dictionary definition of racism, which I don't agree with But I'm gonna read it to you It says prejudice discrimination or antagonism Directed against a person or people

[00:32:07] On the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group Typically one that is a minority or marginalized And then it says similar the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics abilities or qualities Especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another

[00:32:34] And then the last thing that I'll say is they actually have like a little graph on here j And it says it shows the mentions of the word racism. It starts at 1800 Goes to 1850 To 1900 you see my lot my hand going across 1900 1950 flat and then from 1950 to 2019 this

[00:33:01] Crazy arc in terms of the use of the word Racism now I said I don't agree with that definition part of the reason why I don't agree with that definition is because one of the strongest Things that I've done I think this was 2017

[00:33:22] It could be 2018 we started our podcast in 2018 So I think this was 2017. I took a class titled undoing racism It was a day and a half There were probably 40 45 people in this classroom um The title in it of itself

[00:33:46] Drew me in and one of my artist friends was like torn You should you should do this because of the work that you do you should absolutely take this class had no idea what to expect

[00:33:56] 40 50 people from all different walks of life sitting in a circle day and a half talking Julie I have never seen more white men Black men black women Jewish men and women Indigenous men and women I have never seen Asian woman I have never seen more grown ass people

[00:34:29] cry in a session Than I did in march of 2017 people moving through different stories structures around racism by the way the definition that they gave in the class was power plus prejudice equals racism Power is what's missing and that's what's missing in oxford dictionary's

[00:34:59] Definition you got to have power and a lot of people will say well as black people you can be racist. Yeah, I guess we could but oftentimes We are not the ones in power our prejudice Our bias whatever word it's not really preventing you

[00:35:18] From taking advantage of having access to benton fitting from our dislike of you Our rebuff of you is not preventing you from moving forward Racism prevents people from moving forward no access No support um, no resources No decision-making no extension none of those things so

[00:35:45] It was the most powerful thing for me Undoing racism and it's one of those things that I absolutely encourage Organizations to do whether you do it through the organization that I did it with out of seattle, washington

[00:35:58] Or you find another one? I know that there's a great outfit down in new orleans that does it There's one out of chicago that does undoing racism I absolutely encourage organizations. This is something that you should bring in for

[00:36:13] Not just your senior leaders your mid-level managers, but you should bring it in for people like in construction You know these real tough guys warehouse workers, you know real bravado all of this bravado Do it for everybody

[00:36:32] So you make an excellent point and I think you round back up on where I was going that it is The power structure right so it is the white power structure that prevents underrepresented groups from Having equitable access to the things that we all need To be

[00:36:56] Successful and to do the things that we want to do in life And so that takes me back then to your original point Which is how we coddled racists after the civil war And so

[00:37:14] There are two things from like your 1950s sort of of moment. So, you know, there's a great article in the Atlantic this week about Called monuments to the unthinkable and it's really how Germany handled The realization Of what they did during world war two

[00:37:42] And they're very they're you don't even say the word nazi In Germany, right? You don't utter that word. It is shameful um yet after our civil war we prosecute traders Seditionists six section or secessionists, right?

[00:38:05] We allow them to freely re-enter our union because there was a monetary benefit for us to do so and I think that created this Hot bed of People not being held accountable and being able to celebrate um What is an ugly and traumatic and treasonous past

[00:38:30] And you can appear that with the advent of media So I don't know when the first tv show came out, but i'm gonna say 1950 ish somewhere um And then you have media that reinforces negative stereotypes against People who are not white males

[00:38:51] and then you put those two together and it really creates us a A feeding ground. I think for just the continued re-establishment of racist beliefs and tolerance of those racist beliefs in our common society So my pause was because I actually uh

[00:39:13] Did a quick google search and i'm not finding it Uh, the very first tv show. What was the very first television show? looks like it was A drama called the queen's messenger Huh, okay cool

[00:39:33] So you actually raise a good point and that that article over on the atlantic is a really good one And for those of you who are not subscribers of the atlantic don't have a

[00:39:46] Uh login if you will or are not paying for it. They also included an audio recording It's a little more than an hour long I listened to the entire episode because I really was interested in what did they do differently than we did

[00:40:03] Over here and one point that they raised julian the article was one of the monuments or Ways of trying to remember the victims of the holocaust. You know, they said We're not going to put the names of people down in the dirt. We don't need another cemetery

[00:40:24] God knows we don't need another cemetery We're going to raise the names of these victims to eye level Take them out of the dirt give them visibility Let them be seen They are respected in a different way. We're not Uh

[00:40:41] Trampling over them walking over them stepping over them. I don't know if you have that same Custom in your culture Julie and I say your culture as a white woman as a woman Um from indiana if you will I know my grandfather is buried

[00:41:00] At the top of the street down in fort lauderdale, florida So whenever I go home to see my grandmother, I always go to the cemetery and can look at and put flowers at my Um grandfather's grave. You don't walk on the grave

[00:41:16] You don't walk on anyone's grave. So they were like, let's raise the names of the victims out of the dirt and the dust And what they said in the article in the recording was Remembrance pervert preserves the dignity of the victims. So I absolutely love that

[00:41:33] And I just think that part of the reason why racism continues to Exist is because we are not doing a good enough job of making it uncomfortable for those that are Are doing that like for instance that texas teacher uh last week that

[00:41:53] Openly admitted in the classroom in the classroom That he was ethnocentric and that he felt his race was superior He felt his race was superior Let me tell you julie. There is nothing to me wrong with a white woman saying

[00:42:12] I love my race or a white man saying I love my race. There is nothing wrong With the person from india saying I love my race a muslim nothing

[00:42:24] For me, it's when you act in a superior or supreme manner or when you revere your race in a superior or Supreme manner. Now i'm gonna say this some folks out there may not like it I'm saying anyway Ain't too many y'all can outdances

[00:42:47] You thought I was gonna say something different. No just messed with you all It's nothing wrong with if there is nothing wrong with having an affinity And an appreciation for who you are It's the supremacy piece and in all seriousness

[00:43:03] You can go back and play the episodes. I can guarantee you in the four years that julie and I have been recording If you were to put some sort of analytical software on every single episode You have not heard torrentella say the phrase white supremacy

[00:43:24] Definitely less than five times Yeah, and you Um and in less than three times. Have you ever heard me refer to black people brown people? Others as minority I don't do it. No, you don't do I don't do it. Oh

[00:43:45] Hell of a conversation. I think this will certainly take us into 2023 conversations Let's grab a quick ad break and come back for my favorite her voice Absolutely The jimstrow podcast explores the discoveries and trends forming the future of our lives brain to brain communication robot bosses

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[00:44:32] julie just kind of you know how the sand man on apollo He comes out because your act is like all fucked up julie was like look shut up talking you're talking too long Uh, let's get out of here. We got some things to do so

[00:44:44] We're gonna do her voice. This is where we amplify women that are making moves and first up Aditi Malewa Oh mali wall Not sure how to pronounce that partner at upfront ventures joined the board of directors at zest ai

[00:45:00] Uh in loop promoted senior vice president of merchant success hana bravo to co Apparently this is julie sewash who needs to work on her transitions Also health tech company color health promoted chief commercial officer caroline novello to president

[00:45:20] Color improves population health outcomes where traditional care cannot and finally these women were just a few of the fortune 40 under 40 Uh for 2022 nicole munez. Uh, she turned uga labs into a household name in the nft industry

[00:45:38] You have joel gamble the second black woman to serve as chief economist at the u.s department of labor Spotify's most celebrated woman on the mic is someone by the name of alex cooper. She has a podcast called call her daddy

[00:45:55] And vivian chu the co-founder and cto of diligent robotics A company that has raised nearly 50 million Develop socially intelligent robots for use in hospitals if you want to look at the full list Of fortunes 40 under 40 head over to fortune.com

[00:46:15] And this week in disability twitter we have terramoss who is looking to maintain her digital community her digital pals and she says i don't know if i have the spoon To set up another account on another site, but if that's what you are doing where you headed

[00:46:33] I don't want to lose you my friends my beautiful readers the writers community and disability twitter in particular And our dear friend rachel kitty. She actually dropped a disability twitter tweet She was actually doing something i think it may have been like a twitter chat hr social hour

[00:46:51] And she says i'm grateful for my community here on hr social hour And in the overall hr community not to mention i'm grateful for my many communities like recruit twitter adhd twitter disability twitter lupus twitter

[00:47:09] And marketing twitter. Let me tell you jay i've seen a number of those community Hashtags in the last couple of weeks and i think the rise of such Is because a lot of people are wondering where people will be in the coming weeks and months

[00:47:24] Giving the condition of twitter. Yeah, it's true. I'm already thinking about losing all my friends there So and finally we have julia erzik who dropped an updated book covering Disability and the law you can follow her at julia irzyk

[00:47:43] And i close reminding each and every one of you to share the pod with your Digital tribe another good week jay. Thank you for the episode. Thanks for being transparent and always willing to talk even on the uh on the fly impromptu

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